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Ihategod
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Message 56 of 307 (421094)
09-11-2007 12:22 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by crashfrog
09-10-2007 3:34 PM


Re: I know about Faith
In another thread, a not-so-evolved white guy pretends like he knows me:
I do know you. Look outside your window.
People - I was a Christian. A fundamentalist, creationist one. Biblical inerrancy. Redeeming power of Jesus. Gave my life to Christ.
All that stuff. I've been there, people. I do know, truly, what you speak of, White Guy. I was all wrapped up in it - which is how I know that it's fake and you're fooling yourself.
You obviously had no experience. Else, you would have remembered and not turned into the atheist you are. You never really believed, you probably never cared. If you had a real experience you wouldn't be where you are now.
Sure, there's joy, too. The joy we make for ourselves. The universe does precious little to make that possible and plenty to make that impossible for some.
This statement tells a profound story. Haven't you always felt this way? Even when you were a christian? Did things really change when you got out of christianity? Besides church attendence?
As atheists, we would desperately love the idea of an inescapable cosmic force that punished the wicked and preserved those we love that we might be with them again.
Make it up. You've made up a reality without a God, for whatever reasons. The only desperate thing you as an atheist are doing is trying to pull as many people into hell with you.
But knowing that justice will eventually prevail is a wonderful thought.
Oh, so you do want it to be true. My point exactly. Sure, maybe it means you have a few cosmic parking tickets to pay, but like most reasonable people, you think accepting the just punishments for your small infractions is worth catching and punishing the guys that rape and murder children, for instance.
What?
We can move mountains, lift cars, walk on water, heal others, levitate, do all of these things.
Are you shitting me? Nobody can levitate on faith, or heal with faith, or excavate with faith. Faith is useless.
That sounds like an assertion of truth. Have you tried any of these? No? I didn't think so. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. How is this useless? How is hoping for something useless? Without hope there is no dreams, without dreams there is no future. You sound like a small child who has had his blanky taken from him.
So don't try to act like I don't know anything about your faith. I believed it long before you did.
I don't have to try. You put yourself out there like a five dollar hooker. My hope is in my eternal salvation the Lord Jesus Christ, my faith is expressed in my witness to yourself and others however poorly it is at times. I'm still new at this.
No matter what anybody says they will never take the experience of God away from me. Which seems to be the prime objective here. Materialistic Humanism is innately devoid of spirituality so how can you, who has no experience, come close to witnessing truth to me?

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Ihategod
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Message 143 of 307 (421428)
09-12-2007 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Archer Opteryx
09-11-2007 4:36 AM


Re: Which is supreme?
God is truth.

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Ihategod
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Message 145 of 307 (421431)
09-12-2007 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by crashfrog
09-11-2007 1:50 AM


Re: I know about Faith
Well I hope the best for you while you burn in hell. I prefer mild warmth personally.

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Ihategod
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Posts: 235
Joined: 08-15-2007


Message 146 of 307 (421433)
09-12-2007 6:11 PM
Reply to: Message 144 by Chiroptera
09-12-2007 6:01 PM


Re: Which is supreme?
Yeah, but God is truth, so to seperate God from truth is a thing not possible. If there was this truth, then it would be God. If God didn't exist, we wouldn't exist, there would be no mind to ponder or heart to love or whatever other b.s.
In your little world where God doesn't exist and we are only made up of the material we see. Then I would much prefer to believe in truth than some fucking stupid god who didn't give a shit. fuck that god in your world, he owes me big.

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