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kuresu
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Message 61 of 307 (421100)
09-11-2007 12:35 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by molbiogirl
09-11-2007 12:28 AM


Re: Atheism and Violence
Ah, but this is very easy to answer.
All those atheists are unhappy because they don't know God.
The theists are incredibly happy because they know God and God knows them better than any other culture in the world.

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kuresu
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Message 67 of 307 (421110)
09-11-2007 1:32 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by pbee
09-11-2007 1:21 AM


Re: I know about Faith
Santa Claus is real. Well, more real than any so called "god".
Santa Claus is based off of Saint Nicholas of Myra, a real person, as well as being based off of many other cultural traditions.
The myth about Santa Claus living in the north pole with a bunch of little elves and flying reindeer is just that, a myth.
Santa--based on a real person.
God--based on who or what?

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kuresu
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Message 73 of 307 (421116)
09-11-2007 2:06 AM
Reply to: Message 66 by Buzsaw
09-11-2007 1:31 AM


Re: Atheism and Violence
Hitler was religious.
German soliders had "Gott min us" on their belt buckles.
And just what is the immigration stance of Sweden?
Some interesting statements:
At first there was some reluctance to accept these foreigners but fairly soon they were generally accepted and even welcomed
Some 30,000 Estonians and 5,000 Latvians remained in Sweden after the war. About 30,000 survivors from Nazi concentration camps were resettled in Sweden between 1945 and 1948
A total of 550,000 Finns migrated to Sweden during this time period.{1950s-60s}
Unlike other Western European countries, Sweden had a policy of permanent immigration that treated these labor migrants as future citizens.
Sweden officially ended labor migration from non-Nordic countries in 1972.
Asylum seekers from developing countries and flows of their family members characterize Sweden's third phase of immigration (1972 to 1989).
In total, Sweden accepted 18,000 Chilean refugees between 1973 and 1989. Approximately 6,000 refugees from Argentina, Uruguay, Bolivia, Brazil, and Peru also came to Sweden
For a good chunk of it's modern (post WWII) history, Sweden has been somewhat lax about letting people in. Not for racist issues though (go further back, to just before WWII you'll see some anti-semitism).
The restrictive immigration policy is actually relatively new.
They are, however, looking into why and how the immigrants have a higher rate of unemployment and dependency of social wealthfare.
They haven't nailed the problem, but they at least want to help these people and have been.
Migration Information Source | migrationpolicy.org
I can't find any data on your statement about the poverty level of African Swedes.
It's also anecdotal evidence, but no one in my family in Sweden is racist. The people I know do not come off as racist.
by the way, it's atheist, not athiest.

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kuresu
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Message 195 of 307 (421652)
09-13-2007 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 192 by Cold Foreign Object
09-13-2007 2:58 PM


Re: I know about Faith
somethings about your etymology of "evangelical".
First, "eu-" means good. That's a tiny point.
Second, it's "angellein", not angel. "Angellein" means to announce, and comes from "angelos", which means messenger. Unless you can find the greeks using "angelos" specifically for messengers from God, you cannot make the claim that evangelicalism means "good message from God". That is how we use the word, but that is not what the word means is you base the definition from the constituent parts (and you were giving the definition based on the constituent parts).
eu + angellein = evangelical.
eu + angellein = good announcement
Finally, about your ad hominem against Crash. If he's a loser who couldn't make it with god, it only means you're a loser who can't make it without god.
Ah well, what am I saying? After all, you'll only retort by saying that since I disagree with you you are actually right and I'm actually wrong.

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