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riVeRraT
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Message 96 of 145 (420938)
09-10-2007 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by jar
06-29-2007 11:12 PM


Re: Considering the content of the "Family Jewels"
Loop holes work both ways.

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riVeRraT
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Message 97 of 145 (420939)
09-10-2007 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by taylor_31
06-29-2007 9:44 PM


Is the media hurting the war effort?
I started to read this thread, but then I realized, no-one here is really qualified to answer that question, unless we have someone here who is both an expert on military operations, and an expert on our rights as far as the media goes.
There are two points to consider:
1 That our enemies read the papers, and watch CNN.
2 That we as a people need to know what is going on, since we don't trust our own government, and we need to police ourselves as a people.
Where does the happy medium lie?

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riVeRraT
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Message 122 of 145 (421591)
09-13-2007 9:32 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by Chiroptera
09-10-2007 12:13 PM


So? What do you think the problem is? Do you think that CNN is broadcasting reports like "US forces believe that Osama bin Laden is located at 123 4th St. in Baghdad and will raid that house at 8:00 tonight?"
No, but being that it is possible that the people we are fighting against are very isolated, any information that we think is outdated, might be useful to them. Unless you fully understand every situation, you'll have to admit there is a possibility. Why take a chance?
The only message we send our enemies, is that we don't trust our government, and we are a screwd up society, cause we can't keep secrets among ourselves.
The problem about "media hurting the war" is that the media sometimes (not often, but sometimes) publishes information that contradict the government's lies about why the war is taking place, and perhaps even reminding viewers and readers that innocent people as well as American service personel are being killed by in a foreign invasion that occurred for no justified reason.
Or the reciprocal of that. Al-jeezera does a fine job of reporting the war, wouldn't you agree?
I know a few people that actually fought over there, and their reports contradict what we see on the news. Having heard that from the source, gives me pause to wonder if the media is in fact hurting the war. Plus, I really never trust the media completely to begin with.
The people, by being informed and then exercising their rights as voters, may decide to end the war.
We should have our act together before the fact. We shouldn't have had Bush in the white house to begin with, even though I voted for him.
I am not saying we should not know what is going on, I am saying there is a time and place for everything.

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riVeRraT
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Message 123 of 145 (421592)
09-13-2007 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by Rrhain
09-12-2007 5:25 AM


Yeah, right. The local population of Anbar province all sit up late and watch Glen Beck.
Are you saying the local population of Anbar are our enemies?
That said, let's assume that the terrorists aren't stupid. Then that belies the claim that "We have to fight them over there so that we don't fight them over here." After all, they know where "here" is. And if they weren't stupid, they'd attack now because all of our defensive equipment is over there. If you're the weak one, the only way you'll cause any damage is if you hit the enemy in a vulnerable spot. By engaging in a foolish, endless occupation in Iraq, we have made the US weaker and much more vulnerable.
So you think a blow by blow description of what is going on, during an attack on Bagdad is not useful at all to the enemies? You don't think it would be better to wait until any information given out is useless?
Shouldn't we start listening to the people who were right and stop listening to the people who were wrong?
I am not talking about sacrificing liberty. I am talking about timing.
I am all for listening to the people who are right.

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