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Author Topic:   General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 12.0
arachnophilia
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Message 76 of 199 (421820)
09-14-2007 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by macaroniandcheese
09-14-2007 4:21 PM


Re: brenna's suspension
dear, you did react pretty badly. you could have handled that a lot better. and i've been suspended longer for less.

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Taz
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Message 77 of 199 (421828)
09-14-2007 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by macaroniandcheese
09-14-2007 4:21 PM


Re: brenna's suspension
If you've ever gotten in a fight on school ground, you should have known that it doesn't matter who started it. You fought back and that's what counts.

Disclaimer:
Occasionally, owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have used he/him/his meaning he or she/him or her/his or her in order to avoid awkwardness of style.
He, him, and his are not intended as exclusively masculine pronouns. They may refer to either sex or to both sexes!

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AdminBuzsaw
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Message 78 of 199 (421833)
09-14-2007 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Dr Adequate
09-14-2007 2:39 AM


Re: brenna's suspension
Dr Adequate, whether or not creationists are allowed leeway is debatable. If you do the count on the few creationists we have and the overwhelming majority of evolutionists you will likely find that that percentages of moderator actions weigh heavily on the creationists. Perhaps that's necessary but my point is that we moderators try to be fair and balanced to all regardless of ideology.
I suggest that if you want to promote your opinion on this matter that you initiate a new thread for that purpose. This thread is primarily to address specific moderation actions as I understand it. Thanks

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AdminBuzsaw
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Message 79 of 199 (421834)
09-14-2007 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by macaroniandcheese
09-14-2007 4:21 PM


Re: brenna's suspension
Brenakimi, I believe most moderators as well as most other members think you deserved the action. Perhaps if you would learn to express your opinions in a kinder, less profane manner and control your emotions you would get along better and make the site a better place for everyone. I think if anything the suspencion was too lenient given how you've been acting lately.

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jar
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Message 80 of 199 (421836)
09-14-2007 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by AdminBuzsaw
09-14-2007 5:45 PM


Re: brenna's suspension
I agree Buz. Brenna should be held to a far higher standard than the Biblical Christians, ID supporters, YECs or OECs. We know that Brenna is capable of civilized behavior and so she should be held to that standard. That is why the Biblical Christians need to be allowed to call people morons or say that they should be taken out and shot while others are suspended for minor infractions.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 81 of 199 (421837)
09-14-2007 6:10 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by arachnophilia
09-14-2007 4:28 PM


Re: brenna's suspension
i didn't say i didn't react badly. i said i was pissed.
Edited by brennakimi, : No reason given.

i'm not going to capitalize my posts, get better eyes.

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 82 of 199 (421838)
09-14-2007 6:11 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Taz
09-14-2007 5:04 PM


Re: brenna's suspension
that's nice.
florida law actually does protect self defense, though. just so you know.

i'm not going to capitalize my posts, get better eyes.

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 83 of 199 (421839)
09-14-2007 6:14 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by AdminBuzsaw
09-14-2007 5:45 PM


Re: brenna's suspension
how i've been acting lately? what the hell is that supposed to mean?
i was involved in a serious and delicate conversation in which i was paying particular attention to how i was speaking and some guy comes out of left field and attacks my typeface and says absolutely nothing about what i said. i'll agree that my response was out of line, but the fact that this is the second time in the last month this has happened and he was not punished until three hours after the fact because someone else complained about it and not because any admin actually felt that he was behaving out of line.
and if i'm so entirely ill-behaved and useless, then just ban me and get it over with.
Edited by brennakimi, : No reason given.
Edited by brennakimi, : No reason given.

i'm not going to capitalize my posts, get better eyes.

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AdminBuzsaw
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Message 84 of 199 (421847)
09-14-2007 7:59 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by macaroniandcheese
09-14-2007 6:14 PM


Re: brenna's suspension
brenakimi writes:
how i've been acting lately? what the hell is that supposed to mean?
We all get angry on occasion. When you get angry as you did in message 74 of this thread after you returned from suspension it would be nice if you toned down on the emotional profanity and respond in a more rational manner. That is not to say that occasional profanity is not allowed but it can be abused to the extent that it lowers the quality of dialog on a forum board. I've been with EvC about four years and from my recollection the occurance of it has consistently been minimal.
Perhaps my use of the word "lately" was inappropriate in that it implied more than was the case. My apologies for that.

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AdminBuzsaw
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Message 85 of 199 (421848)
09-14-2007 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by jar
09-14-2007 5:52 PM


Re: Take It Elsewhere
Jar, please take note of my message 72 regarding Dr Adequate's rhetoric about the how members in general are treated respective to ideology. I repeat, if you people want to rant on that subject, please take it to another topic. We could debate that subject til the cows come home and accomplish nothing for the purpose of this thread.

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jar
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Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 86 of 199 (421849)
09-14-2007 8:13 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by AdminBuzsaw
09-14-2007 8:09 PM


Re: Take It Elsewhere
I'm sorry but in case you didn't notice this thread is "General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures 12.0" and what I am discussing is Moderator Procedures.
Just a hint: this is the right place to discuss moderation procedures and the fact that AdminBuzsaw can't understand that simply supports my contention that we should not try to hold Biblical Christians to the same standards as evolutionists.
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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AdminBuzsaw
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Message 87 of 199 (421867)
09-14-2007 9:11 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by jar
09-14-2007 8:13 PM


Re: Take It Elsewhere
Jar, it is quite clear that the purpose of the remarks you and DA are not nearly as much as about moderation proceedures as it is to demean the minority members of the board.
You both know full well that the point that you are attempting to promote has been debated in the past and likely will not be resolved by repeating it in this thread. Imo it will only work to derail the thread and to inflame minority members.
I stand by my contention that it is inappropriate here. Other moderators or Admin may want to weigh in here.
Edited by AdminBuzsaw, : No reason given.
Edited by AdminBuzsaw, : No reason given.

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jar
Member (Idle past 394 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 88 of 199 (421872)
09-14-2007 9:24 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by AdminBuzsaw
09-14-2007 9:11 PM


Re: Take It Elsewhere
Sorry AdminBuzsaw but THIS is the place to discuss Moderation Procedures.
Is there some reason you wish to censor discussing the behavior of Admins and Moderators or are you really not capable of understanding that this actually is the place for such discussion?
In addition I try hard to never demean other members, but only address the content of posts or behavior. Please stop making such false allegations.

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Adminnemooseus
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Message 89 of 199 (421881)
09-14-2007 10:03 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by jar
09-14-2007 9:24 PM


Adminnemooseus thinks it should have a topic of its own
Jar, I find that I must agree with both you and AdminBuz.
Yes, your comment does pertain to moderation procedures and thus is proper for this topic.
Some variation of it, however, has become your your standard message in this topic, more or less repeated whenever someone of the evolution side is suspended. Yes, the uneven or seeming uneven moderation treatment of evolutionists and creationists is a reality in this forum. And yes, it should be discussed.
But I think it merits its own topic in the Suggestions and Questions forum. This is because it is such a specialized issue AND because it is a distraction from the discussion of other moderation issues.
So, please do start a new "Uneven Moderation of Evolutionists and Creationists" topic. If you can come up with a better title, go for it.
Right now, I think any further discussion of such, in this topic, is itself cause for suspension. I'm sure you would like it, that you are being held to such higher standards.
Case closed in this topic.
Adminnemooseus

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jar
Member (Idle past 394 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 90 of 199 (421883)
09-14-2007 10:05 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Adminnemooseus
09-14-2007 10:03 PM


Re: Adminnemooseus thinks it should have a topic of its own
So the thread for discussing moderation procedures is not the place to discuss moderation procedures?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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