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molbiogirl
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Message 133 of 145 (422125)
09-15-2007 10:09 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by Hyroglyphx
09-15-2007 6:02 PM


PR Flack
All ten items are from a WH press release.
Briefing Room - The White House
Let's take a look at the facts.
From the NYU Law Review: Prosecuting Terrorism: The Legal Challenge
NYU writes:
1. 2001 Tasking Ali S. Kahlah al-Marri
Detained although charges were dropped
2. West Coast Airliner Plot
No public record of any detention or legal proceeding
3. Jose Padilla Plot
Jose Padilla detained and convicted
4. 2002 Straits of Hormuz Plot
No public record of any detention or legal proceeding
5. 2002 Arabian Gulf Shipping Port Plot
Abd al-Rahim al-Nashri convicted and sentenced to death in Yemen
6. 2003 Tourist Site Plot
No public record of any detention or legal proceeding
7. Heathrow Airport Plot
No public record of any detention or legal proceeding
8. 2003 Karachi Plot
No public record of any detention or legal proceeding
9. East Coast Airliner Plot
No public record of any detention or legal proceeding
10. 2003 Tasking
No public record of any detention or legal proceeding
11. Gas Station Tasking
Majid Khan detained in Pakistan
12. Brooklyn Bridge Tasking
Iyman Faris convicted on material support charges
13. US Government and Tourist Sites Tasking
No public record of any detention or legal proceeding
14. 2004 UK Plot
Nine men of Pakistani descent detained in Britain with trial pending
15. UK Urban Targets Plot
Eight men including Issa al-Hindi detained in Britain with trial pending
5 cases involve detention.
3 cases involve conviction.
I dare say that the Patriot Act, with the employment of the Echelon program and human intelligence, is proving its worth. Unless of course you're cool with more 9/11 style attacks.
Um. No.
This is pathetic.
And, of those that have no public record, I'm assuming you're taking it on faith that Dubya et. al. are telling the truth.
Just like they did about the yellow cake. The WMD. Et cetera.
I'd also like to point out that, of those that involve detentions, 4/5 were in other countries.
The only detention/conviction here in the U.S. is Padilla.
Not Found - The New York Times
Herald Tribune writes:
On the way to this verdict, the government trampled on the Constitution, and its prosecution of Padilla was so inept that the crime he was convicted of - conspiracy to commit terrorism overseas - bears no relation to the plot to wreak mass destruction inside the United States, which the Justice Department first proclaimed.
Pathetic. Just pathetic.

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molbiogirl
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Message 138 of 145 (422386)
09-16-2007 10:46 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by Hyroglyphx
09-16-2007 8:47 PM


All ten items are substantiated fact too.
I would love to see your evidence.

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