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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6056 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
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OFF TOPIC! P.S. CAN'T I GET AWAY WITH IT JUST 6,000,000,000,000 TIMES?
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6056 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
Is abiogenesis always in direct relation with the Big Bang theory, where the Big Bang lays it out, and abiogenesis works from there? This is the case that evolutionists would like you to believe. They refer to themselves as scientists and hide under the pretense of un-bias scientific evaluation. However, with the growing creation science (which will be ridiculed by someone here, and for bad reasons) there is new light to be shed. IMO the answer is rather unscientific as is the big bang and it requires one principle: Faith. Unbending, unreasoning faith. Faith is good because you get rewarded by God in the physical and spiritual realms and you develop a stronger relationship with Him. Just try it. What do you have to lose that you can take with you after your physical body dies?
I'd like some opinions on the contemporary validity of the Big bang theory. It is a fairy tale, that if true would imply utter hopelessness. I choose to believe in good things instead of this disgusting theory.
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6056 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
There is no evidence of god Of course their is! Look around. People, earth, solar systems, etc...
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6056 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
A lifetime of sincere inquiry. Which gets you what when you roast in hell?
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6056 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
Many evolutionists believe in God. A sick retarded God perhaps.
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6056 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
But hopelessness, good, and disgusting have nothing to do with being true or false, do they? Or are you admitting that creationists prefer to believe in a good fairy tale over a hopeless and disgusting reality? If things like common descent and God were known, then there would be no debate. What is truth? What is reality? More metaphysical questions than could be observed through scientific thought. Of course Creationists prefer their religion to meaninglessness!
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6056 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
Are you saying that the Pope believes in a "sick, retarded God"? I would hardly call Satan a god, but the Pope definitely doesn't believe in the God is some parts of his book.
The truth of the matter is that there is abundant, confirmatory evidence of common descent, and that the debate is over. It's over and done with! It was over in the 1800's. The only people who hang on to the failed ideas of creationism are the people who are too ignorant to know better or who have been brainwashed by religion.
: You have the faith of the rock you think you came from.
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6056 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
You should read the books of Genesis, Exodus, and Joshua. Taking it all literally, it would appear that the fundamentalists worship a sick and retarded god. God owns people, God can kill people. It doesn't show a God as you described but more a God who doesn't like the current fallen state and puts much more stock in the true life as Jesus described.
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6056 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
You mean the kind of God that wants people stoned to death for working on a Sabbath or saying Goddammit? I agree with your description. You assume he likes it? Doubtful. If you have a pending messiah, savior of the world in the bullpen, you can't have the Jews furking cows now can you?
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6056 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
Your original point was that evolutionists are faux scientists motivated by a desire to deny God. But many evolutionists do believe in God, and so of course are not trying to deny him. It is only the literal inerrancy of a book written by men that they refuse to accept. Once you find a way to get rid of "god" by naturalistic means evolutionist thinkers will be free to make good on my claim. Too bad you just can't get life from non-life. Yes, the universe created itself, then "God" stepped in and when *poof* life, then he want back to his craps game.
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6056 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
What theories propose a non-religious view to the origin of life after the Big Bang (that are scientifically sound)? Depends on what you mean by non-religious. It is scientifically sound to say that life was created. Humanism needs mechanisms at the risk of ridiculous pondering. Most folks here at evc believe they're right. So most won't tell you what is based on questionable fundamentals and what is actual truth.
For the 2nd question, if someone doesnt believe in God, then isn't it NECESSARY for one to support the Big Bang theory? Or are there other theories? No, most atheists are extreme skeptics only believing in what their senses relay. Nothing to stop anyone from rejecting everything they haven't seen. But, it does fit well with their beliefs.
Lastly, is the Big Bang still valid? If it is, it shouldn't be.
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6056 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
Touche.
This would be an example of rejecting reality in support of a religious belief. Your reality is a religious belief and my "religious belief" is a reality. Was that a typo?
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Ihategod Member (Idle past 6056 days) Posts: 235 Joined: |
so that you could conflate an actual empirical observation with God making organisms by magic, which is not the reproduction of an organism or organisms, and which is not something that we ever observe I see. Nobody has ever observed macro-evolution. No has observed the Big Bang. Nobody has really ever observed positive mutations or adding of genetic information to a genome in a chromosome. Yet you will stand at your podium at spit fairy-tale stories of how life began and state them as scientific. You just cater words and definitions to your specific arguments. The only way evolution can be won is in a discussion board with delusional word games.
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