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Ihategod
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Message 1 of 12 (421102)
09-11-2007 12:45 AM


I would like to discuss the implications of the after life, life and pre-life in the view of evolutionary thought.
Why do people who believe in evolution as origins theory believe in a god(s)?
What kind of god(s) would be met at the end of this life, if evolution was the mechanism by which life originated?
What is the purpose of life in evolutionary thought? Will science scientifically postulate through scientific methods the conclusion to this scientific mystery?
How does racism play a role in evolutionary thought? Black people look an awful lot like monkeys....just saying?
Why is there so much suffering in the world, and how do we evolve out of it?
Should we try selective breeding? And what is the most desired traits?
This is just starters. A fast paced, fun Q&A for our intelligent community.

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Message 2 of 12 (421120)
09-11-2007 2:19 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ihategod
09-11-2007 12:45 AM


Seriously doubtful
None of your questions seem to have anything to do with your title, could you make the link explicit or change it to something relevant instead?
I can't really see anywhere this would be appropriate since it covers such a grab bag of broad topics.
This has all the hallmarks of a train crash writing to happen. Kicking off a topic with a bit of racism is never a good idea and neither is trying to stuff what could constitute 6 different topics into one thread. Are you sure you wouldn't just like to pick out one question and try and make a decent OP out of it rather than the metaphysical equivalent of the Gish gallop?
TTFN,
AW

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Message 3 of 12 (421339)
09-12-2007 4:56 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ihategod
09-11-2007 12:45 AM


I would echo AdminWounded's comments, especially concerning the title, but I do think I see a common theme, and perhaps you could emphasize that. You seem to be thinking of evolution as having been developed to provide an alternative to Christianity, and operating under that assumption you're asking why it doesn't address many of the same mysteries of the human condition and spiritual issues that Christianity does.
Just ignore this if I've misconstrued your intent, but if this is at least somewhat on target then you might consider unifying your arguments around this point, which should make this thread proposal promotable.

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Ihategod
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Message 4 of 12 (421426)
09-12-2007 5:52 PM


Race to the lution evo!
How does racism play a role in evolutionary thought? Black people look an awful lot like monkeys....
I like this one. Racism seems to play a role in evolutionary thought. Let's see what people have to say.

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Message 5 of 12 (421432)
09-12-2007 6:08 PM
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09-12-2007 5:52 PM


Re: Race to the lution evo!
If you want to start a thread on the role of racist thought on evolutionary theory you are going to need to put more effort in than that. If you look in the archives you will see this topic has already been addressed on a number of occasions, so you really need a clearly thought out OP if you plan to rehash it. A throwaway bit of racist innuendo just won't do.
TTFN,
WK

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Ihategod
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Message 6 of 12 (421445)
09-12-2007 6:32 PM


How is this a throw away? Obviously it doesn't take much scientific inquiry to figure this basic fact. Whites are more evolved and blacks are less evolved. Let us discuss if this is a negative or positive and then let's decide if we should advance the human race without the throwback races(blacks, jews, aborginies, etc) If you think I am wrong, or intentionally being racist, then let someone correct me.

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Message 7 of 12 (421449)
09-12-2007 6:56 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Ihategod
09-12-2007 6:32 PM


Surely you have participated in enough threads to have some ide what an opening post should look like?
You need some framing of the discussion, ideally supported with some evidence, and perhaps a brief account of your own views.
One sentence ascribing a racist position to the entire world of 'evolutionary thought' is not sufficient, and similarly neither is one plate lifted entirely out of its context. Or do you think that evolutionary theory suggests humans are descended from Plesiosaurs and Kangaroos?
So why not try and craft an OP that hangs together coherently?
TTFN,
AW

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Ihategod
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Message 8 of 12 (422148)
09-16-2007 3:25 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by AdminWounded
09-12-2007 6:56 PM


Spy VS Spy
The frame:
Are blacks and other non-white humanoids inferior in any way to the White Man? Also, should blacks and other non-white humanoids be allowed to disrupt the humanoid gene pool? Summarily, was Hitler justified in ethnic cleansing and should we use similar tactics or is there others ways of purification?
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Black_people
I met a humanoid at KFC that looked just like this:
http://www.ucsc.edu/oncampus/art/ape.gif
Hitler used evolution to kill blacks, why can't we?
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Blacks and lesser humanoids are vestigual in nature. What are we to do with these throwbacks of our evolutionary process?
Even if you believe in "god" you can still help the evolution process, just like Hitler!
Page not found – Skeptic Wiki
Conclusion: It is incumbent upon all men, to stand up and take charge of the future of the human race. Do we really want lesser creatures involved with our development?

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Message 9 of 12 (422233)
09-16-2007 2:42 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Ihategod
09-16-2007 3:25 AM


Re: Spy VS Spy
So were you aiming for the 'humour' forum, since we don't have a 'Big Fat Racism' forum?
When I said starting off a thread with a 'bit of racism' was a bad idea I didn't mean you should start it off with a whole big truckload of racism.
Do you want to try writing an OP for a serious thread concerning evolution and racism or can I just close this mess down?
TTFN,
AW

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Ihategod
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Message 10 of 12 (422336)
09-16-2007 9:16 PM


WHY are you stifling my OP? Please let it ride baby. Don't hold back the truth, or is this some sort of evilution plan to quell the idea of evolution and racism? Let the people decide! Open it to the public. There are evolutionists at the gate waiting to pounce! Do not deny them their pillaging!

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Message 11 of 12 (422340)
09-16-2007 9:22 PM
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09-16-2007 9:16 PM


quote:
Don't hold back the truth, or is this some sort of evilution plan to quell the idea of evolution and racism?
You should know that there are several Creo moderators.

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Message 12 of 12 (422362)
09-16-2007 10:05 PM


Rejected and closed
Not remotely up to new topic standards.
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