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Author Topic:   why creation "science" isn't science
toff
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Message 269 of 365 (3627)
02-07-2002 4:07 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by nator
01-15-2002 10:24 AM


I have a question...do the creationists who frequent message boards like this ever actually READ within the field? I'm not trying to be snide or insulting. I, like (no doubt) most of them, am a busy person, trying to fit a family, work, etc., into my life - yet, because I am interested in the field, I do my best to keep up with current literature, even if only via the popular books of people like Gould, Dawkins, etc. If they're pasting to these boards, presumably they, too, have an interest in the topic. So why do they constantly ask questions that have been exhaustively dealt with in easily accessible, simple to read books on the subject? KingPenguin's last question has been dealt with by authors such as Dawkins, Dennet, Gould...at far more length, and with far more detail and accuracy than any answer he is likely to get here. In sum: why don't you guys read the books, if you want to find out the information?

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toff
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Message 308 of 365 (4227)
02-12-2002 10:08 AM
Reply to: Message 298 by KingPenguin
02-10-2002 11:13 PM


quote:
Originally posted by KingPenguin:
i wasnt saying anything about the bible. i was just saying that our incompetent leaders need to be more open. along with you atheist evolutionists.

Oh, the good old 'atheist evolutionist' line. As if all evolutionists were atheists. They aren't. A belief in evolution has nothing to do with a belief in god, or even a belief in creation by god. ALL it contradicts is fundamentalist, literal-genesis, christians. Sorry. I know you'd like to believe all evolutionists are godless heathens - they're not.

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toff
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Message 313 of 365 (4374)
02-13-2002 6:12 AM
Reply to: Message 310 by Christian1
02-12-2002 1:22 PM


quote:
Originally posted by Christian1:
Creation is a religion, Evolution is a RELIGION, Science is what we can observe and test to be true. My religion is proved over and over and over and over and over and over and evolutionists cannot offer even an shred of solid proof. Yet they call evolution "science". Please do not get this mixed up.
If you have proof of evolution "a scientific experiment, in a complete form with facts and without doubts or other theories" I'm going to tell you where you can get $250,000 for it. Please visit http://www.drdino.com to collect.
Those of you who believe in God and Evolution should watch Dr. Hovind's videos which can be found on the "money link" or even read and understand the bible. The mear fact that evolutionists chalk their religion up as being "science" is painfully mistaken, there is no proof or science experiment that supports the theroy of evolution. I've seen the bible proven to be acurate time and time again and untill it is proven wrong, I will continue have my beliefs as a True Christian and creationist. And keep in mind that God created "TIME" as well, proof is spoken in the book of genius.

Sorry, creationism is a religious belief, evolution is a scientific theory. Evolution does not satisfy the definition of a 'religion' - check any dictionary. It is a science. Creationism is not. And don't waste our time talking about Hovind's offer - the man is a charlatan, a crook, a liar, and probably certifiable. His 'offer' is a fake one, whereby he makes all the rules, determines who is on the jury (no doubt creationists), determines what the jury gets to see...evolution has been proven as fact (or as close to fact as anything is proven by science) to the satisfaction of the world's scientists, who know infinitely more about the subject than Hovind. His 'offer' is a lie, like virtually everything else that comes out of his mouth on the subject.

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toff
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Message 334 of 365 (5058)
02-19-2002 3:05 AM
Reply to: Message 330 by TrueCreation
02-16-2002 11:43 AM


quote:
Originally posted by TrueCreation:
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Once again, everybody sees your so-called 'model'. Unfortunately, it's completely false. creationism is completely faith based. Creation 'science' does not exist; it is merely a label put on creationist beliefs in an effort to make them more respectable to non-creationists. There is no scientific evidence which supports creationism. Which is why, rather than do any actual research or experiments, creationists (including creation 'scientists') instead spend all their time trying to bring down evolutionary theory. And failing.

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