oh, man, i seriously hope someone had a camera and puts that on youtube. i wish i'd been there for that one!
IT was recorded. PZ Myers wrote this about the event:
quote:
Not if you listen to Bill Dembski's Q & A last night . where he said, "I've got plenty of ulterior religious motive, I'd like to see ID succeed because of my Christian background and beliefs." In addition, it sounds like not only did a professor get up and rip him apart on the flagellum, but the audience was laughing at poor Dembski. That's what we need more of: the creationists getting laughed off the stages at their propaganda ops.
There is a rough link to a transcript (as it happened) to the ripping
here
quote:
Once again, another offer to explain the flagellum. By popular demand the prof is up there explaining it right now. I love this. Flagellum evolved in four steps - bacterial pilli, needle, ATP syntase, time beat dependent transport systems. Combine these four together you see a step-wise mechanism for the evolution of the flagellum. “and you know this for sure? Can you show me the exact genetic changes that occurred, the probabilities for them, you have to have protein homologues that are folded in and I’m not seeing the specificity” “how many steps do you need” “I want a detailed explanation” :laughter: “it’s a great just-so story, but you still have to prove more to me, show me how you get from that to the next step ok you’ve got another one there another system along the way step by step do the genetic changes make sense” the proteins that make up the flagellum are so closely related to those that make up the pillli and the needle so they aren’t just proteins from different systems that have been co opted for this function, if yo’re going to lecture on this particular subject I suggest that you obtain an adnvance d degree in biochemistry” :applause:
The recording isn't up yet, but
this person has apparently done an audio recording and will hopefully post it. Meantime there is
this to read:
And finally, a link to
the professor who made the night so successful.