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celestialGyoud
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Message 1 of 9 (423097)
09-19-2007 6:11 PM


Real Intelligent Design does not omit the simultaneous time sequence
Hi,

When the light is omitted
one walks in darkness

The scientific definitions for the beginning of the substances do tend to not see the distinction between properties that intrinsically belong to the continuous sequence of the times that terminate, and the property –id est living electricity—through which he/she has access to the immediate knowledge of simultaneous time sequence.

In the intent to define the beginning of the living electricity, --which runs through the human nervous system--, the scientific explanations for the beginning of life have been bringing up foundations that are firm in the sand of the results from the perception of substances, from earth and skies, whose existence is brief and temporary.

The science intent to define the beginning does tend to bizarrely omit what the living electricity is,

because there is a crazyness --or disconnection-- from the expectations of the intents. Isn't real. A lack of fidelity.

See through this point of view: There is a disconnection in not ascertaining the distinction between the evolution itself --the systematic mode that the organic substances evolved; or developed in conditions that caused them to pass through a process of evolution--,

and the intrinsic permanence --time sequence-- of the living electricity that causes the organic substances to be temporary alive.

§§§§§§§

Simultaneous time sequence is always present when two or more continuous sequences of whether static electricity or electric current become one simultaneous impact gathering --short circuit-- that is also called light.

The intrinsic time sequence of the impact gathering isn't a continous sequence anymore, but a termination of continuous movement: A new time sequence that is a time of impact by the anihilation of continuous sequence.

When blind leads the blind both fall off this simple two steps stairway:

1st. - Environments and spaces have always been completely subjected to the simultaneous time sequence.

2nd. - Organic evolution has always been a consequence from the extreme mutabilities of the environments.

§§§§§§§

§§§§§§§ Which type of Intelligent First light designates the beginning

There is no Intelligent design when the seeing of the light is substituted with the theological obscurity of believing whatever one believes the truth is supposed to be.

-- While having the light --living electricity--, endure in the light, in order to become first-fruit of light -- paraphrased transcription.

The access to the retaining of a true Intelligent design starts by seeing that there is no knowledge of the beginning without an immediate action taken by that living electricity --light; spirit; energy in simultaneous time sequence;--

because that real action is the massive current of detonations from the impacts --short circuits-- that process knowledge, through simultaneous time sequence, from the literal lightnings in the inner universe of the brain.

Also there is no understanding of time sequence and of the beginning of that same living electricity when it is omitted which type of light makes the beginning of knowledge.

The beginning of knowledge is the trembling of the Eternal. --paraphrased transcription--.

This is real intelligent design: The beginning of knowledge is the trembling impact of silent lightnings from that type of living electricity,

because that is how knowledge is restarted and reprocessed in the inner of his/her brain: through the sequenced impacts that are detonated in order to shine in a simultaneous time sequence.

Through seeing which type of light makes the beginning of knowledge,

one might ascertain which type of living electricity holds the potency of being the Last and the First light, in the simultaneous time sequence through which life and knowledge are restarted.

§§§§§§§ §§§§§§§ §§§§§§§

In the understanding of time in simultaneous sequence --from The time sequence of I AM THAT I AM – [a transcription by TzsháJeha Zsháfir],

the access to true knowledge of existence is viewed through the perception that all things are just momentarily being and temporarily existing. -- Heaven and earth do pass away, --they're just temporarily existing for a time--, but My words --id est phrimmi of life; spirit; living electricity-- endure eternally. -- paraphrased transcription.

--passing away; temporarily existing for a time; all things that are subject to the continuous time sequence –-time in continuous sequence like a second after another-- do not exist by themselves;

when human perception says 'I do exist' or 'the sun and the skies do exist' that is not a knowledge of what to exist actually is, but a result from an involuntary condition of temporarily existing for a time; like the human heart beating or the involuntary velocity of a nervous trembling.--

to exist, in the real existence, is when the words I AM THAT I AM are pronounced by one that knows that he/she will not be dust within 70 years or less.

§§§§§§§

Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : subtitle

Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : intelligent design

Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : new subtitle

Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : paragraph division

Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : italic

Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : two steps stairway

Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : time of impact


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Message 2 of 9 (423144)
09-19-2007 10:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by celestialGyoud
09-19-2007 6:11 PM


Re: Time in simultaneous sequence
I have no idea what I'd promote this to, if I was even so inclined.

More clarity, perhaps?


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celestialGyoud
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Message 3 of 9 (423257)
09-20-2007 4:39 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminCoragyps
09-19-2007 10:07 PM


Real Intelligent Design does not omit the simultaneous time sequence
Hi AdminCoragyps,

Now it is clear that the transcription needed a better editing,

Thank you

quote:
When the light is omitted
one walks in darkness

The scientific definitions for the beginning of the substances do tend to not see the distinction between properties that intrinsically belong to the continuous sequence of the times that terminate, and the property –id est living electricity—through which he/she has access to the immediate knowledge of simultaneous time sequence.

In the intent to define the beginning of the living electricity, --which runs through the human nervous system--, the scientific explanations for the beginning of life have been bringing up foundations that are firm in the sand of the results from the perception of substances, from earth and skies, whose existence is brief and temporary.

The science intent to define the beginning does tend to bizarrely omit what the living electricity is,

because there is a crazyness --or disconnection-- from the expectations of the intents. Isn't real. A lack of fidelity.

See through this point of view: There is a disconnection in not ascertaining the distinction between the evolution itself --the systematic mode that the organic substances evolved; or developed in conditions that caused them to pass through a process of evolution--,

and the intrinsic permanence --time sequence-- of the living electricity that causes the organic substances to be temporary alive.

§§§§§§§

Simultaneous time sequence is always present when two or more continuous sequences of whether static electricity or electric current become one simultaneous impact gathering --short circuit-- that is also called light.

The intrinsic time sequence of the impact gathering isn't a continous sequence anymore, but a termination of continuous movement: A new time sequence that is a time of impact by the anihilation of continuous sequence.

When blind leads the blind both fall off this simple two steps stairway:

1st. - Environments and spaces have always been completely subjected to the simultaneous time sequence.

2nd. - Organic evolution has always been a consequence from the extreme mutabilities of the environments.

§§§§§§§

§§§§§§§ Which type of Intelligent First light designates the beginning

There is no Intelligent design when the seeing of the light is substituted with the theological obscurity of believing whatever one believes the truth is supposed to be.

-- While having the light --living electricity--, endure in the light, in order to become first-fruit of light -- paraphrased transcription.

The access to the retaining of a true Intelligent design starts by seeing that there is no knowledge of the beginning without an immediate action taken by that living electricity --light; spirit; energy in simultaneous time sequence;--

because that real action is the massive current of detonations from the impacts --short circuits-- that process knowledge, through simultaneous time sequence, from the literal lightnings in the inner universe of the brain.

Also there is no understanding of time sequence and of the beginning of that same living electricity when it is omitted which type of light makes the beginning of knowledge.

The beginning of knowledge is the trembling of the Eternal. --paraphrased transcription--.

This is real intelligent design: The beginning of knowledge is the trembling impact of silent lightnings from that type of living electricity,

because that is how knowledge is restarted and reprocessed in the inner of his/her brain: through the sequenced impacts that are detonated in order to shine in a simultaneous time sequence.

Through seeing which type of light makes the beginning of knowledge,

one might ascertain which type of living electricity holds the potency of being the Last and the First light, in the simultaneous time sequence through which life and knowledge are restarted.

§§§§§§§ §§§§§§§ §§§§§§§

In the understanding of time in simultaneous sequence --from The time sequence of I AM THAT I AM – [a transcription by TzsháJeha Zsháfir],

the access to true knowledge of existence is viewed through the perception that all things are just momentarily being and temporarily existing. -- Heaven and earth do pass away, --they're just temporarily existing for a time--, but My words --id est phrimmi of life; spirit; living electricity-- endure eternally. -- paraphrased transcription.

--passing away; temporarily existing for a time; all things that are subject to the continuous time sequence –-time in continuous sequence like a second after another-- do not exist by themselves;

when human perception says 'I do exist' or 'the sun and the skies do exist' that is not a knowledge of what to exist actually is, but a result from an involuntary condition of temporarily existing for a time; like the human heart beating or the involuntary velocity of a nervous trembling.--

to exist, in the real existence, is when the words I AM THAT I AM are pronounced by one that knows that he/she will not be dust within 70 years or less.

§§§§§§§


Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : two steps stairway


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09-21-2007 8:19 AM


Request for Help
If anyone thinks they know what this means with an eye toward possibly discussing it, please post to Topic Proposal Issues.


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Message 5 of 9 (423764)
09-24-2007 8:49 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by celestialGyoud
09-20-2007 4:39 PM


Simplify the verbal communication
I must admit that this topic is hard for me to understand. What do you mean, Crazy Diamond 7, when you say:
Crazy Diamond 7 writes:

The access to the retaining of a true Intelligent design starts by seeing that there is no knowledge of the beginning without an immediate action taken by that living electricity --light; spirit; energy in simultaneous time sequence;--

because that real action is the massive current of detonations from the impacts --short circuits-- that process knowledge, through simultaneous time sequence, from the literal lightnings in the inner universe of the brain.

It appears to me that you are asserting that Living Electricity=Holy Spirit and/or Intelligent Design.

Crazy Diamond7 writes:

one might ascertain which type of living electricity holds the potency of being the Last and the First light, in the simultaneous time sequence through which life and knowledge are restarted.

How many types of this "living electricity" are even defineable?

Were you to assert that God originates life, that would be a fine Faith/Belief Topic. :)

CrazyDiamond7 writes:

to exist, in the real existence, is when the words I AM THAT I AM are pronounced by one that knows that he/she will not be dust within 70 years or less.

Are you talking about Jesus?

Please tell us which direction you are going with this topic. While colorful and providing a delightful view of your thinking process, this topic is not promoteable IMHO because it is too difficult for the average reader to understand. If you would be so kind as to clarify it in simpler terms, we can consider promotion at that time. :) Also tell us which forum you want to go to.


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celestialGyoud
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Message 6 of 9 (424081)
09-25-2007 2:12 PM
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09-24-2007 8:49 AM


Evolution has nothing to do with the beginning of the living electricity
Hi AdminPhat,

This belongs in Intelligent Design.

And this is the overall message:

1st. - Organic evolution is a consequence from the extreme mutabilities of the environments, because evolution acts a continuous movement which is only possible by continuous time sequence. Therefore the time sequence of evolution has nothing to do with the beginning of the living electricity that acts a simultaneous time sequence and runs through the human nervous system.

2nd. - It is not possible for science to explain the beginning of life from experiences of properties that intrinsically belong to the continuous time sequence because the living electricity that is called spirit acts by a simultaneous time sequence.

The beginning of life and of the living electricity that holds the potency of being the Last and the First light, is best explained by Knowledge of simultaneous time sequence, that is the time sequence through which life and knowledge are restarted.

3rd. - There's a disconnection --or crazyness--, from a lack of fidelity, in the scientific intents of explaining the beginning of life because of the omission on what the living electricity is.

4th. - Real Intelligent design does not omit the knowledge of simultaneous time sequence.

5th. - The understanding of true Intelligent design starts by seeing that there is no knowledge of the beginning without an immediate action taken by that living electricity --light; spirit; energy in simultaneous time sequence;--

which translates: It is not possible to explain the origin of life nor the beginning of true existence unless by a real action from a first-fruit of life, which means: by an immediate action that is taken by the living electricity which is a living extension of the Last and First intense flaming light of the living Word that was in the beginning and whose pronunciation makes the beginning of all things.

6th. - True scripture does not say the living Word was 'god' nor 'jesus',
but the Hebrew verb To Be: Jeháv Jehavéh - YHW YHWH - I AM THAT I AM.

The terms god and jesus belong to religiosity and to the versions of scripture that are according to the doctrines of faiths and beliefs of the earth.

True scripture says The beginning is the [pronunciation of the living] Word [YHWH],
And the Word is pronounced by I AM [YHWH]
And the Word is I AM [YHWH]

7th. - The type of living electricity --spirit-- that vivifies the human body is a living extension of the intense flaming white Light that has been saying through IsaYah: I AM the Same; I AM the First --I am the Álef--, I AM also the Last --I am the Táv.

Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : I am the Álef and the Táv


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Message 7 of 9 (424115)
09-25-2007 5:07 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by celestialGyoud
09-25-2007 2:12 PM


I don't think you are going to manage
I'm afraid that it is necessary to be a bit more blunt than others have been:

You write utter nonsense. You string words together that you think are very intelligent. They are unintelligible.

It is possible that you are simply too smart for a site of this nature, with ordinary humans reading and posting here. Perhaps you need to find somewhere that has an average intelligence high enough to understand the profound nature of what you have to say.


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Message 8 of 9 (424322)
09-26-2007 2:54 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by AdminNosy
09-25-2007 5:07 PM


the transfigured motion of the lightnings in the density of the clouds
Hi AdminNosy,

Have you ever seen the transfigured motion of fading effect of the lightnings across the clouds,

How the intense living white light transfigures silently towards the density of the waters,

And the silent lightnings do always act a simultaneous displacement, and the simultaneity--fading effect of the transfigured motion itself acts a distinct mode of time sequence that does not depend from the continuous segment of a second after another.

Also the sun light acts a different time sequence, and even the climax of intense desire equates to a presence of transfigured motion that can not be retained by continuous motion;

because the desire itself results from the transfiguration of a flaming light of desire that man and woman do intent to reach and retain, but then that is why it is called desire: because the continuous motion will never be enough neither the appropriate time sequence to totally retain the completeness of what the flaming light of the desire is.

Perhaps the thought that there is another time sequence, which is eternal and different from the continuous segment of a second after another, might not be utter nonsense for any intrigued investigator, whether having known the understanding of times or not.

Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : do

Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : continuous


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Message 9 of 9 (424331)
09-26-2007 3:22 PM
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09-26-2007 2:54 PM


Understanding dawns !!
I finally get it!

You are writing poetry. Perhaps somewhat impenetrable poetry but poetry with a flash of color now and then.

Sorry, but this isn't a poetry site.


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