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Author Topic:   Seashells on tops of mountains.
Taz
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Message 4 of 343 (425236)
10-01-2007 12:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by iceage
10-01-2007 2:17 AM


Back in the days when I was still a creationist, I offered the flood model as the explanation for fossils found on mountain tops in my geology class. My teacher went up to the board and drew out something like this.
Then she told me that water don't do this.
Obviously, I didn't get it at the time. Took me about a decade to finally realize what she was trying to tell me.
The fossils are not only found on mountain tops, but also are found on elevations that vary some thousands of feet. A world wide flood responsible for the deposition of these fossils would have distributed them at aproximately the same elevations throughout the world. In fact, if such is the case it would probably be the strongest evidence for a world wide flood.

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Taz
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Message 8 of 343 (425583)
10-02-2007 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by CTD
10-02-2007 8:13 PM


CTD writes:
As a youth, your probably understood that deposits in a body of water settle on the bottom.
I guess now you've become convinced they settle at some sort of uniform depth in relation to the "flat" surface of the water.
Um, I think you misunderstand the demonstration of that drawing.

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Message 22 of 343 (425703)
10-03-2007 8:10 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Minnemooseus
10-03-2007 6:41 AM


Re: The message 4 diagram
Min writes:
I'm not really understanding it either, and I have a geology degree.
I don't have a geology degree so this is only the layman talking in me.
From what I understand, fossils are not only found on mountain tops but also IN them. Furthermore, they're also found IN mountains, not just mountain tops. And not every mountain top has fossils of sea shells.
A violent world wide flood that covered even the highest mountain top we would expect to distribute things very evenly (that is if it's possible for a flood to bring up sea shells to some thousands and thousands of feet high). These same fossils are found on the sides of some mountains while are found on tops of other mountains. These locations are some thousands of feet high in variation.
Make sense? Or am I babbling here?

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Taz
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Message 194 of 343 (512990)
06-23-2009 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by Doubletime
06-23-2009 6:48 AM


Re: The age of shells and the age of the organisms that made the shells
Doubletime writes:
The flodd was supposed to have lasted for 40 days.
Jesus christ, you don't even know your own bible. Rain fell for 40 days and it took another year or so for the water to recede. Here's the biblical reference.
Gen 8:5 The waters continued to recede until the tenth month, and on the first day of the tenth month the tops of the mountains became visible.
If you're going to be a bible literalist, be a bible literalist. Don't make up your own BS.
Therefore the sea shells still with air trapped inside could easily end up in mountains and deserts.
Have you ever come across a sea shell that got air trapped inside it? More to the point, have you ever come across a sea shell that floats?
The earth is still flodded to about 70 percent.
Again, if you're going to be a bible literalist, be one. Don't make up your own BS.
Gen 7: 19-20 They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than twenty feet.
Several times in the history of the earth the earth has been fully coverd with water.
There is absolutely no evidence that the entire Earth was ever covered with water at any one time. Different parts of the planet have been covered at different times.
If you're going to talk earth science, talk earth science. Don't make up your own BS.

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Message 209 of 343 (513649)
06-30-2009 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 208 by Percy
06-30-2009 8:40 AM


Re: hi, first post
Percy writes:
I've often found that volubility and ignorance are positively correlated.
Volubility: noun - the quality of being facile in speech and writing
Facile:
1. Done or achieved with little effort or difficulty; easy. See Synonyms at easy.
2. Working, acting, or speaking with effortless ease and fluency.
3. Arrived at without due care, effort, or examination; superficial:
I guess you do learn something new everyday.

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Taz
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Message 219 of 343 (513959)
07-02-2009 7:32 PM
Reply to: Message 212 by Percy
07-01-2009 5:41 AM


Re: hi, first post
Percy writes:
Beyond its strict dictionary definition, voluble also has a mildly derogatory common connotation as referring to someone who talks too much, and in this context is a bit closer in meaning to glib than facile.
Am I voluble?
Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

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