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Author Topic:   Science and Speech in Determining "Human" Kind
Jon
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Message 179 of 268 (425051)
09-30-2007 5:35 AM
Reply to: Message 173 by IamJoseph
09-30-2007 4:54 AM


The Tower of Babble that is Joseph
What? What source? What are you talking about?
Especially... what does this mean?
...how does one get off the cyclical and put PAID to the myth factor?
Jon

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Jon
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Message 203 of 268 (425124)
09-30-2007 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 199 by IamJoseph
09-30-2007 11:16 AM


Troll!
DAMN YOU LITTLE TROLL!
You let me argue this whole time that you thought speech to be language, when clearly you don't!
What is 'speech' to you? Because tons of animals have the ability to speak. Cats purr when they're happy”sounds expressing emotion”, and that bird responds to hearing 'green' and 'block' by adding them together”sounds expressing thoughts. Multitudes of other animals have been shown to have the ability speak.
Didn't you watch the video? What is the parrot doing? While I'm quite convinced that it ain't language, I'm damn well sure it's speech.
The two you used would have no problem with or w/o the language variances and deficiencies, and would use compensatory improvisations based on the principle of logic.
What? Are you drunk? Have you ever tried talking to someone who didn't speak your language? The ability for two humans to effectively communicate without speaking the same language is almost completely absent. If they do make sense of one another, they certainly will not have 'no problem' doing it.
Jon
Edited by Jon, : TROLL

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Jon
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Message 204 of 268 (425126)
09-30-2007 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by IamJoseph
09-30-2007 5:55 AM


Re: possible equivocation, moving goalposts, and denial ... take two
If one talks cosmology, or about evolution - there can be two universes being considered: a finite or infinite one. The conclusions for each is markedly different. With a finite universe - one cannot omit a cause factor - which becomes far more demanding of science.
What is a 'cause factor', and why does it pose so much problem in a 'finite universe'.
You make no sense.
That speech is unique to humans is first declared in Genesis.
You would say that, wouldn't you?
Jon

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Jon
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Message 213 of 268 (425174)
09-30-2007 10:29 PM
Reply to: Message 209 by IamJoseph
09-30-2007 10:00 PM


Relevancy is more Conducive to Debate
two of which were debated here
There's nothing being debated here because you have not said anything. You've combined words in random orders to make up theobabble nonsense. You go from speech to language to Genesis to astronomy to biology, generally all within the same damn sentence. We could make a separate topic out of everything you say, because nothing you say is relevant to any of the other things you say. It's all just a mish-mash of unrelated material. You put in random dashes and punctuation as if you think it makes you look intelligence, and instead you just come off as a senseless ignorant, Biblical Christian.
I'm sorry... but you are generations behind even Alex the bird.
Jon
Edited by Jon, : No reason given.
Edited by Jon, : No reason given.

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Jon
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Message 215 of 268 (425358)
10-01-2007 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 214 by RAZD
10-01-2007 3:32 PM


Re: for when you get back from suspension for not providing a definition of speech ..
...you have a list of questions you can pick from to ask an intermediate...
What is the nature of these questions?
How much 'translation' is performed by this intermediate?
how do you tell that the subject is human?
What do we know of the other subjects possible? Are they birds? Apes? Cats? Fruit flies?
Also, simply because someone cannot see the difference does not mean that the difference isn't actually there. What's the cliché? Looks can be deceiving.
Jon
Edited by Jon, : Added paragraph.

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