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Message 12 of 65 (426011)
10-04-2007 7:06 PM

Reply to: Message 11 by Cold Foreign Object
10-04-2007 6:17 PM

And here we have CFO extrapolating beyond from what was said....

Typical Cultist/Superstitionist behavior....

It is true that religion encourages isolation and creates cultural barriers.

CFO writes:

blaming the Holocaust on religion

As pointed out prior Martin Luther was one of the original thinkers that influenced the Nationalist Socialist party. Martin Luther just so happens to also be a religious leader.

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Message 21 of 65 (426049)
10-04-2007 9:33 PM

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10-04-2007 8:53 PM

Martin Luther a Religious Luminary

Another pointless useless comment.

Address the material if you please or by your own recommendations you should be suspended.

Martin Luther concerning the Jews writes:

...First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them....

... [a] base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth...

...I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb....

...we must drive them out like mad dogs...

Martin Luther a theistic luminary.

Luther's foaming-at-the-mouth condemnations formed the foundation for what was to come to fruition in the 20th century. By their fruit you will know them, as it is written.

Predictable superstitionist cultish meme addled thought processing.

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Message 39 of 65 (426237)
10-05-2007 6:17 PM

Reply to: Message 30 by Cold Foreign Object
10-05-2007 4:58 PM

CFO Projects Again

CFO you go and on about slander all the while you engage in it.

CFO writes:

Hitler, an educated white supremacist, empowered by Darwin's theory

Hitler as far as I know *never* referenced Darwin in his writing or speeches. Hitler believed that the races where created (unequally) by God.

However he frequently cited Martin Luther. So who is slandering.

You are spreading false information without justification. You are slandering Darwin and by your own logic Darwin then must be spreading the Gospel.... LOL.

cfo writes:

What is in dispute is your refusal to see that it was slander and hijack by an Atheist in the process of murdering millions of persons.

Hitler used phrase like "Divine Destiny" and "God's Will".

cfo writes:

Blaming Hitler on Luther is slander of Luther and all Protestants.

As several have informed you it is *NOT* slander if true. You making a fool of yourself by continuing along this vein.

cfo writes:

Since you are an Atheist-evolutionist we have an obvious explanation for your slander.

And since you are a cultic-superstitionist who has already demonstrated the ability to avoid the truth we can explain why you cannot accept the facts in this circumstance.

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Message 42 of 65 (426255)
10-05-2007 7:48 PM

Reply to: Message 41 by Dr Adequate
10-05-2007 6:41 PM

Luther's Philosophical DNA

Wow! I am getting an education on the character of this person "who God chose to ignite the Reformation"

I have to thank Herr Ray for bringing up this topic about Hitler for discussion. I suspect Ray is also finding a few things about his philosophical roots that he was unaware of - must be painful for him.

Here are some more choice quotes

Martin Luther writes:

Idiots, the lame, the blind, the dumb, are men in whom the devils have established themselves: and all the physicians who heal these infirmities, as though they proceeded from natural causes, are ignorant blockheads....

A first class superstitionist... check

Martin Luther writes:

This fool [Copernicus] wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy; but sacred scripture tells us that Joshua commanded the sun to stand still, and not the earth...

Avoids data and reasoning that threaten his world-view... check

Martin Luther writes:

The word and works of God is quite clear, that women were made either to be wives or prostitutes...

Even though they grow weary and wear themselves out with child-bearing, it does not matter; let them go on bearing children till they die, that is what they are there for.

Extreme sexist... check

Martin Luther writes:

What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church...a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them.

Lying for God is good... check

As I read through these quotes I am amazed how well they compare to the same illogical deceitful stiff-necked ignorant and stubborn attitudes of theistic fundamentalist today; different issues perhaps or in different degree but similar thought processing.

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Message 53 of 65 (426440)
10-06-2007 6:22 PM

Reply to: Message 47 by Cold Foreign Object
10-06-2007 3:05 PM

Re: Adequately racist

Ray writes:

Question" presupposes moral perfection exists.

No but it should presuppose someone who didn't believe in lying for God...

Martin Luther writes:

Ray writes:

We know for a fact that you are also anti-semite and a gutter racist.

You just are not a very nice person are you. You are a credit to your superstition. This should warrant a good suspension.

Ray writes:

Any person who accepts Darwinism is both. Darwin, by rejecting Genesis, said the Jews conspired to fool the world with a special creation origin. And since all Darwinists accept Wellhausen JEPD, which said school were converted Darwinists, it says the Jews conspired to fool the world with an early Mosaic authorship.

Sigh it is not even worth picking this apart. I notice when you are backed into a corner you either strike out with insults or abandon the topic.

Ray the Blasphemer writes:

Apparently, God did not select you

Again you speak for God eh?

Edited by iceage, : No reason given.

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Message 59 of 65 (428610)
10-16-2007 11:38 PM

Hitler and Evolution Claims....

In this post Message 24 by DiscipleFire an essay is referenced "Why Evolution is Wrong" by James E. Bancroft that makes this statement....

referenced article writes:

These evolutionary descriptions of cultural growth influenced Europe up to the time of Adolph Hitler, who used evolution to explain the differences and abnormalities of the 'inferior' races such as Jews, Gypsies, and Negroes

I am bumping this thread in case DiscipleFire or anyone else would like to defend this assertion.

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