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NosyNed
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Message 3 of 59 (42759)
06-12-2003 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by stevo3890
06-12-2003 5:18 PM


Define "nothihg".
This seems to me to be a silly question. One way to define nothing is "something" which doesn't have any existance. If that is the defintion then of course not.
Here is the oxford definition
noun 1 no thing; not anything. 2 person or thing of no importance. 3 non-existence. 4 no amount; nought. adverb not at all; in no way.
In definition 3 you see that kind of nothing can not be definition exist.
I think this is a silly, poorly considered question.

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Message 8 of 59 (42801)
06-12-2003 8:09 PM
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06-12-2003 5:49 PM


I am too stupid to see the implications.
I need a better defintion of what this "nothing" is.
You'll have to spell it all out for me.

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Message 13 of 59 (42811)
06-12-2003 8:51 PM
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06-12-2003 8:20 PM


this Universe is a largely a vacuum and many would argue that a vacuum has nothing in it.
"many" would be wrong. The vacuum of space has all sorts of fields permeating it. Gravitational and electromagnetic at least.
In addtion there is constant flux of virtual particles coming and going in the "vacuum". I guess the conclusion is that there is no nothing.

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Message 26 of 59 (42918)
06-13-2003 11:35 PM
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06-13-2003 11:19 PM


Buz, if you can't handle the simple physics you're been shown already, do not attempt this area. There are very few who can really understand it. And to just get a glimpse of what the experts are suggesting is very difficult. Stay with something simpler.

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Message 40 of 59 (43051)
06-16-2003 4:51 PM
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06-14-2003 6:05 PM


Buz, you couldn't handle the issues around volume, density and area when disussing the problem of the ability of the atmosphere to hold water as a gas. Those are very simple. You haven't dealt with that.
Given that, why do you think you can understand something that, in fact, not that many people in the whole world have the mathematical background for and which is well outside of what our everyday experience prepares us for. Buz, like it or not there are smarter people than you and I. A whole lot smarter.
Sometimes you just have to listen and think about something. Sometimes what you think or believe just isn't worth a damm. We all have to recognize that to have an opinion on a topic we need to have done some work if we want the opinion to be of any value to anyone. Some things take a lot of work. You haven't done the work.

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Message 42 of 59 (43056)
06-16-2003 6:37 PM
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06-16-2003 6:32 PM


Actually, Buz, maybe I owe you an apology. The statements about nothing you've been making are mostly as good as anyone else's. The comment about black in the daytime is a bit silly but then that's in line with the topic since most of the statements are a bit silly.
But you might to well to finish up with the other threads that you've sort of left hanging instead of indulging in time wasting here.

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