What you want to know about Christ.

So, Jesus having died, is it O.K. for me to collect firewood on a Sunday? Or should I get what the other man deserved, in your opinion, if I do this? I have done it in the past, so if I escape the stoning to death, will I be condemned to eternal damnation?

Well, you have to admit that he does seem to have chosen all his prophets from one tribe when there were people spread out over six continents. And when he comes to earth as his own son, guess which tribe he appears amongst.Wouldn't it be a bit more convincing if He had sent his word to a number of different characters from different cultures all over the world? More practical, as well, because the natives of the Americas and Australia, for example, wouldn't have had to wait until the Europeans arrived to take over their land before they could have a chance to be saved.

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I believe in the Bible because of what I have been taught and what I have experienced, but most of all because the Bible itself says it is true.

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You believe the Bible is true becasue the Bible itself says it is true?Can you see the problem with the logic of this?

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I don't know that much about Jewish festivals, but Jesus was crucified on the Friday, after the feast of Unleavened Bread. I'm not sure if that was the end of the Passover, or if it went on for longer after that, but he was definitely crucified during or after the Passover.

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The point is, the bible says that it happened both before and after.According to John, Jesus was not crucified after Passover, but the day before. Mark places the crucifiction after Passover.Jn.19:14-16
And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar. Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified.Mark 14:12
And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?Mark 15:25
And it was the third hour, and they crucified him. Edited by nator, : No reason given.

Oh, that's okay, you didn't need to support it. I was just wondering what the purpose of the Bible was. I've never read the whole thing cover-to-cover so I'm not in much of a position to have my own opinion either way. Thanks for sharing.The Bible has been around for a long time, I was wondering what it's purpose was and how close it's getting to accomplishing that goal.How has the Bible progressed since it's inception in "conveying God's word and truth to all humans in all generations?"That is, how good of a job is the Bible doing in it's purpose?

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I am sure you believe things that you have not seen with your own eyes, such as the fact the world is round, the earth is so big, and the sun is so big. (I'm not sure exactly). There are thousands of examples of faith, and I believe that, in many cases, the Bible can be, and is proven.
'Faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.'(I can't remember the reference, but its in the Bible).

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The thing is, there is lots of physical evidence that the Earth is a flattened sphere, that the sun is a star. I don't have to believe based upon somebody's word for it, I can do the calculations and measurements myself, and if I really wanted to, I could go to school to become a cosmologist to become an expert on the sun or planets.Scientists and science-minded people of many different religious faiths and also of no faith at all can all agree upon the math, physics, and the physical evidence that exists for determining the sphereical shape of the Earth, and the size of the sun, etc. There is no "belief" of a religious sort needed to accept such things.Do not equate this trust in empiricism with religious belief, because they are not the same at all.Religious faith is belief without evidence.

Learn to read.Exodus 20:3 writes:You shall have no other gods before me.No other gods before me. That means that the Israelites could not place the worship of one of the other gods ahead of YWHW.But the stories in the Bible are not about GOD as much as about how the people at a given time viewed God. What you see is not GOD but rather a whole collection of Gods dependent on the sophistication and culture of whoever was writing that story.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Of course that is not talking about "The Bible" which beside the fact that there is no such thing as "The Bible", didn't even exist at the time that was written.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

A few come to mind:Since the Bible gives us a clear examples that we should pray to the dead, and Jesus is God, how does Jesus want us to pray to the dead? Should we use statues, or candles, or incense?Another one - was jesus denied 3 times or six times?Did Jesus clear the temple once or twiceOn what day did Jesus die?was it dark when Jesus' followers went to his tomb?Thanks-Equinox

Gee, you didn't answer my question. Let me ask again.Would Christ have condoned the extermination campaign by the Israelites on the Canaanites? For example, and specifically, would Christ have condoned what the Israelites did to the people of Jerico?You promised me you would answer my questions. Now, remember that I am an atheist and you claim to speak for christianity. Please don't try to dodge or you will give me a really bad impression of christianity.By the way, it was an extermination campaign, not a "drive out" campaign. Perhaps you should read the bible again?

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Give me a verse which demonstrates God's 'thirst for blood'. God created us, and has a right to take our life away. God gave Jonah free choice. He allowed him to get halfway across the world and then still allowed him the choice of whether or not to admit to causing the storm, the choice to obey after God saved him with a fish. Pharoah did have that choice, but God knew already what his response would be. God knows all.

Grace and the law are two different things. Anyone who breaks the law (the Ten Commandments) deserves death. But God's grace gives us life. God could have pardoned that man, but in that situation it would have seemed to the Israelites that God's recently given law was merely advice, not law which they must obey.

I cannot read God's mind. I do not have all the answers, and I am definitely not perfect. Yes, the Old Testament prophets were mostly from Israel. Back then, these were his chosen people. But, good people from other places were saved as well. Eg, Rahab, the Ninevites etc. New Testament, there were the Wise Men, a few important Romans, and the Apostles spread the word of Jesus Christ to most of the then known world. Just look at the titles of Paul's (and others) letters: Corinthians, Phillipians, Collosians, Galatians, Romans, Hebrews, etc. Many who have not heard the law have it written on their hearts, so they are a law to themselves. They will not be judged as if they know the law.

Yes I can see how some people don't get this. I have talked quite a bit about this in the thread 'The Bible was NOT man made, it was Godly made'. Please read what I say in that, then ask me again if you have further queries.

lol the tyrant wiped out everything on the face of the Earth except 8 people and some animals on a wee boat for goodness sakes. Oh I see, it is okay to murder innocent babies because you created them, what a lovely God you worship! Yes, and Jonah chose to go in the opposite direction from that which God had asked him to. So, did God honour Jonah’s free choice? Well it appears not . When Jonah CHOSE to go the opposite way from which Yahweh requested, Yahweh even made a huge fish to swallow Jonah and take him to where God wanted him to go!There is no free will there, Jonah was abducted by a big fish from God (it really does sound ridiculous doesn’t it?), so while Jonah chose to go where he wanted, God did not respect Jonah’s free will. So, why are you ignoring the Bible? I have posted one of the verses where God explicitly says that He will harden pharaoh’s heart and you ignore this. The LORD said to Moses, "When you return to Egypt, see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go. God hardens pharaoh’s heart, it is there in black and white.Exod 7:3 But I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and though I multiply my miraculous signs and wonders in Egypt Exod 9:12 But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the LORD had said to Moses. Exod 10:1 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Go to Pharaoh, for I have hardened his heart and the hearts of his officials so that I may perform these miraculous signs of mine among them God explicitly says that He hardened pharaoh’s heart so that Yahweh could slaughter Egyptians.Exod 10:20
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the Israelites go This tells us that it was impossible for the pharaoh to agree to let the people go, Yahweh had manipulated the situation to satisfy His lust for blood.Exod. 10:27 But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he was not willing to let them go.Yahweh at it again.Exod 11:10 Moses and Aaron performed all these wonders before Pharaoh, but the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the Israelites go out of his country. How obvious does it have to be, or are you willing to ignore the Bible in order to maintain your delusion that God is a fluffy little kind guy sitting on a cloud? Scriptural support please.