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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 31 of 101 (429642)
10-21-2007 1:48 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by Spektical
10-21-2007 1:21 AM


Re: Re;Old School
you should talk, bitch.

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crashfrog
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Message 32 of 101 (429648)
10-21-2007 2:14 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by ringo
10-21-2007 1:00 AM


Re: Re;Old School
Fidelity has nothing to do with the quality of the music.
Oh, now we're talking about "quality"? Somebody stop those goalposts!
It's the performance that makes it human, as opposed to mechanical.
It's the same sound in both cases, Ringo, with different amounts of noise on top of the signal.
I like my signal-to-noise ratio to be high. You, apparently, take the opposite view. That's fine. Perhaps at your next concert you'd like to cram cotton balls into your ears; then you could have a really enjoyable experience, since apparently you like it better the less of the music you can actually hear.
If you hadn't noticed, the thread is about passion for music.
Oh, that's right. I missed that this was yet another thread for insufferable music snobbery. You're right that I can't possibly be someone who enjoys music unless I like exactly the same music as you, in exactly the same way, as chosen from an extremely narrow catalog of "songs I heard working at the dinosaur quarry." Gosh, would you like to tell me that my hair is too long, now, Grampa?

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ringo
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Message 33 of 101 (429650)
10-21-2007 2:53 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by crashfrog
10-21-2007 2:14 AM


Re: Re;Old School
crashfrog writes:
Oh, now we're talking about "quality"?
I don't know where you got the impression that we were ever talking about anything else.
... apparently you like it better the less of the music you can actually hear.
No. Just the opposite. I like to hear all of the performance, including the parts that digital recording removes. You can call it "noise" if you like.
I missed that this was yet another thread for insufferable music snobbery.
It seems to me that the insufferable snobs are the ones who whine about flaws in sound reproduction.
You're right that I can't possibly be someone who enjoys music unless I like exactly the same music as you....
I haven't criticized anybody's taste in music. I simply pointed out the common error you made in confusing the reproduction with the real thing.
Gosh, would you like to tell me that my hair is too long, now, Grampa?
Mine's probably longer than yours, sonny.

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Jaderis
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Message 34 of 101 (429653)
10-21-2007 3:06 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Hyroglyphx
10-19-2007 11:05 PM


I am too lazy right now to post links, but here is a list of my heavy rotation:
Tegan and Sara
Mm
Metric
Radiohead
Broken Social Scene
CSS
Knife
Ellen Allien
The Editors
Stars
Air
Cat Power
Feist
Ladytron
Miho Hatori
The Organ
PJ Harvey
Rilo Kiley
Of Montreal
Magnetic Fields
Dave Gahan
Autolux
and some all-time favorites:
Depeche Mode
Nirvana
David Bowie
Bjork
The Beatles
The Cure
Queen
The Smiths/Morrissey
Tool
Deftones
Moby
Garbage
Joy Division/New Order
Velvet Underground/Lou Reed
Led Zeppelin
Portishead
Simon and Garfunkel
Pink Floyd
Siouxsie and the Banshees
Mindless Self Indulgence
Ministry
Pantera
Metallica
Skinny Puppy
Alice In Chains
Gipsy Kings
Patti Smith
VNV Nation
NIN
The Ramones
Black Sabbath
My Bloody Valentine
Ani Difranco
Leonard Cohen
KMFDM
Hole
Echo and the Bunnymen
I could go on and on and on.
As you can see my tastes are all over the place. I don't listen to a lot of country, but I do like some "countryish" folk - check out a band called Hem - and I like Johnny Cash and The Dixie Chicks (some songs) and I don't listen to a lot of hip-hop, besides Outkast and Mos Def (and I did like Public Enemy and KRS-One back in the day, but I haven't listened to them in ages).
Nod to crash: I like Delerium and there is another band that I associate with them - B-Tribe. It's not music I usually listen to just to listen to, but it is damn good sex music
Edited by Jaderis, : No reason given.

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Lithodid-Man
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Message 35 of 101 (429656)
10-21-2007 3:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Hyroglyphx
10-19-2007 11:05 PM


Music I love
My musical tastes are quite wide, I think I like what is good from a wide variety of styles. My first love is real punk (both old and classic):
Modern Lovers, Ramones, Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, The Freeze, Crucifux, DOA, Millions of Dead Cops, Suicidal Tendencies (first album, before they sold out to become crap), Fear, and Forgotten Rebels. To name a few.
I also like a lot of classic rock/metal/psychodelia:
Cream, Doors, Black Sabbath, AC/DC, Cat Stevens, Beatles, Rolling Stones (although I am pissed at them, a different story, bastards owe me!), Donovan, CSN&Y, Procol Harem, Moody Blues, Pink Floyd, Eric Burdon & the Animals, Styx. Very incomplete list, but again to name a few.
Individual bands/people across all genre I love: Gene Krupa, Arlo Guthrie, Buffy Sainte-Marie, Hank Williams sr., Roy Orbison, Jimmy Cliff, The Wailers, all of Michael Franti's projects (the Beatnigs, Disposable Heroes of the HipHopcrisy, Spearhead), Morphine, G-love and the Special Sauce, Soundtrack to Hair (play not the crappy movie), Big Head Todd & the Monsters, Nirvana, Black Uhuru, Mutabaruka, and Linton Kwesi Johnson. Again to name a few!

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Woodsy
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Message 36 of 101 (429683)
10-21-2007 10:46 AM


I have found that what is really a blast is to play music rather than to listen to it.
I started out performing country music in grade school, then in high school I played rock and symphonic music (our "school band" was a symphony orchestra; such luck!). These days, I play early (medieval and renaissance) music. I love the intricacy, amazing ingenuity, and the wonderful beauty of early music.
I have heard that one's taste in popular music gets set in high school. I really like folk rock and acid rock, so you can guess my age.
Just for curiosity, does anyone else find that a lot of current pop songs lack decent melodies? I hear very few songs with tunes that one might whistle later. I wonder why that is.
I noticed some time ago that scientific and technical people are often keen musicians. The early music group I play in are all scientists and medical people, and many other scientists I have known have been musical. This seems unexpected somehow.

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Zawi
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Message 37 of 101 (429694)
10-21-2007 11:57 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by crashfrog
10-20-2007 10:27 PM


Re: Re;Old School
Not listened to Juno Reactor for some time, but I used to be into that sort of music quite a lot. Seemed like everyone that was into hallucinogenic drugs were into Juno Reactor and other related bands. I still listen to Shpongle a lot, especially now they've gotten more techy.

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Zawi
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Message 38 of 101 (429695)
10-21-2007 12:01 PM


I'm into most music. I've got a passion for jazz, as you might discern from my screen name (from Joe Zawinul, keyboardist of Weather Report). I'm also into electronic / dance music, and make my own quite a lot.
Despite my atheist stance, my favourite band is Take 6, an acapella group who sing songs that are so Christian that even Jesus might get fed up of it after a while. But they're brilliant.

  
Zawi
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Message 39 of 101 (429697)
10-21-2007 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Woodsy
10-21-2007 10:46 AM


quote:
I noticed some time ago that scientific and technical people are often keen musicians.
I've noticed this as well (Brian May the guitarist from Queen for example has a phd in astronomy from the prestigious Imperial College of London). I think there’s something about well-made precise music that appeals to the meticulous nature of scientists and engineers. Lots of my humanities buddies on the other hand tend to be into weird dissonant punk rock that can only be appreciated if you know the philosophy behind it.
Edited by Zawi, : No reason given.

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crashfrog
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Message 40 of 101 (429699)
10-21-2007 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Jaderis
10-21-2007 3:06 AM


but I do like some "countryish" folk - check out a band called Hem
Hem! Yes. Thank you for reminding me to grab Half-Acre off iTunes, something I've been meaning to do.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 41 of 101 (429704)
10-21-2007 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by crashfrog
10-21-2007 12:57 AM


Re: Re;Old School
Seriously, though. Nobody else is into Delerium?
Can't say I've heard of them, but then again, I wanted to hear of music I hadn't heard before, so I guess that's a good thing. Got an audio files that you can format to EvC?

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 42 of 101 (429709)
10-21-2007 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Jaderis
10-21-2007 3:06 AM


Music now or days
I don't listen to a lot of hip-hop, besides Outkast and Mos Def (and I did like Public Enemy and KRS-One back in the day, but I haven't listened to them in ages).
That's because most hip hop has lost its roots. Its the same with this Nu-metal stuff.... Most of it is caca, IMO.
But then again, doesn't every generation claim that theirs is "keeping it real?" I mean, yes, one would expect music to evolve with new sounds, but I'm finding it harder and harder to identify with some of the newer acts in these two genres.
I suppose this is why I find most similarities with underground acts. I only like a few mainstream acts. Most people aren't musically refined enough to understand complex time signatures. They just identify with catchy music.

"It is better to shun the bait, than struggle in the snare." -Ravi Zacharias

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Spektical
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Message 43 of 101 (429897)
10-22-2007 10:01 AM
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10-21-2007 12:53 PM


Re: Music now or days
Definitely agree with that, all the new stuff has no substance. I grew up listening to stuff like KRS-one (who I think is just amazing), Common, Gangstarr etc. IMO Hip hop is not the most intelectual of music (with exception to people like KRS one), that's why I switched to metal when I was in grade 12. Been a Tool fan ever since and that will never change. The new stuff is regurjitated garbage.

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kuresu
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Message 44 of 101 (429925)
10-22-2007 2:46 PM


My Music
Let's see, who do I listen to?
Al Di Meola
Alan Parsons Project
Allman Brothers
America
Broadway (JC Supersta, Evita, Lion King are the ones I have)
Apocalyptica
The Beatles
Broadway (JC Supersta, Evita, Lion King are the ones I have)
Bela Fleck and the Flecktones
Canned Heat
Cat Stevens (Yousef Islam today)
Chuck Mangione
Cream/Eric Clapton
CCR
Deep Purple (any generation of that band)
Def Leppard (very little, actually)
Dire Straits
Fleetwood Mac (any generation of that band)
Foghat
Genesis
Gov't Mule
Harry Chapin
Jaco Pastorius
Jethro Tull
Jimi Hendrix
Journey
Kansas
Led Zeppelin (of course)
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Meatloaf
The Moody Blues
Neil Young
Pink Floyd
PFM (premiata forneria marconi)
Robin Trower
The Rolling Stones
Rush
Santana
Simon and Garfunkel
Steppenwolf
Trans-Siberian Orchestra
U2
Victor Wooten
The Who
Yes/Rick Wakeman
Several movie soundtracks (Everest [imax], LotR, Star Wars)
Some one off albums--such as Jeff Wayne's "War of the Worlds" album from the 70s.
And Classical Music
Add in several artists that I have yet to or barely listened to and can't recall the name
Also add whatever the hell 99.5 The Mountain is playing.
Total number approx. 50 that I know, a lot more I don't.
Ah, and some might remember this thread:
My Music
I've got another two songs in the works. God knows when I'll get them done.
ABE:
As far as I'm concerned, metal and or punk have an almost total lack of substance. I don't even bother with rap, jip-hop, or "pop" music.
Edited by kuresu, : No reason given.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 45 of 101 (429926)
10-22-2007 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by kuresu
10-22-2007 2:46 PM


Re: My Music
Wow, you really like the 70's and 80's style progessive rock, most of which I'm into as well.
I particularly like that you have Transiberian Orchestra, Vic Wooten, Yes, Rush and Bela Fleck.

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