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Author Topic:   Evolution Contradicts Logic and is Impossible 2 (Reformed)
crashfrog
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Message 16 of 19 (43004)
06-16-2003 2:53 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by FFGFollower
06-15-2003 7:57 PM


You can make your little accusations all day. Doesn't mean they're true.
This is the first original thing you've said in this thread - your first post copies yourself from some other site:
(Had a link here to a google cache; it was so long it wrecked the formatting. Trust me, though - it was exactly the same post, word for word. You can find it yourself with a google search.)
That message, like your first post, is stitched together from other people's work, easily uncovered via google.
This part:
quote:
Evolution contradicts logic. Let me ask you a question. If you were walking down the street and you found an fully functional computer just sitting there on the side of the road, what would you believe about it?...Of course another possibility is that it died standing up and was buried quickly in those layers as they settled out after a great flood. Oh, but that would mean those layers are not really millions of years old.
Is the work of some Ralph guy at Behind the Badge, which Brian Johnson pointed out.
This:
quote:
Evolution is basically no more scientific than a fairy tale:
In children’s fairy tales, we are told:
frog + magic spell (usually a kiss) = prince
In modern "science" textbooks we are told:
frog + time = prince
is from Kent Hovind's Christian Science Evangelism Ministry which you quote without attribution.
About the only original work in your post was perhaps the explanitory text for your websites. (I don't know why you think websites are evidence for your position; you know as well as I do that, even if I restricted myself to scientific publications, I could come up with ten times as many links as you in support of evolution, including quotes from creationists who came to understand the truth of the evolutionist position.)
So, it's not my little accusations. You're a plagarist, and I've proved it. Now, are you here to argue points and defend your position? You might start doing so by using your own words. Or don't you trust creationism enough to defend it yourself?

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derwood
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Message 17 of 19 (43011)
06-16-2003 9:04 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by FFGFollower
06-15-2003 7:32 PM


Hi again
Hi FFG,
I see you still have the Korthof link, even though I pointed out to you before that his sitre actually debunks alot of anti-evolution claims. Perhaps you should take some of your own advice and read your links.
I also noticed that you linked to the accolades page for electrical engineer Wally ReMine's book. Any astute observed will readily see that the accolades ALL come form creationists, so it is hardly impressive.
As his gibberish has been discussed here and elsewhere before, and you seem to think that you know about this stuff, I will gladly discuss his "theory" with you if you'd like.
[This message has been edited by SLPx, 06-16-2003]

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Peter
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Message 18 of 19 (43012)
06-16-2003 9:05 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by FFGFollower
06-15-2003 7:57 PM


quote:
I don't need to see the link to tell you that a circuit board doesn't just appear out of nowhere all of the sudden.
Just as my thread says, You're contradicting logic.
And no-one has said that modern lifeforms have either ... that's
what evolution is about.
Once the building blocks are available (which is where evolution
kicks in) the proposed evolutionary process can be shown to
be capable of 'designing' complex systems.
Do a web-search on 'genetic algorithms' or 'evolutionary programming'
and you'll hopefully find something you can link to.
responding that you don't need to look at the evidence to know
that something is wrong doesn't sound rational to me.
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Message 19 of 19 (43014)
06-16-2003 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by FFGFollower
06-15-2003 7:32 PM


Closing This Thread
Hi FFGFollower!
You're failing to follow administrative requests and you're violating the Forum Guidelines.
It was requested that you limit yourself to at most 2 or 3 related topics for a single thread, yet you opened this new thread that touches on topics from geology and cosmology to biology and physics. I'm going to request that you limit yourself to a single topic when you next open a thread.
Rule 5 of the forum guidelines says, "Bare links with no supporting discussion should be avoided." Your message is primarily just bare links with no supporting discussion. Please always provide some explanation for how the link relates to your point.
Rule 6 of the forum guidelines says, "Never include material not your own without attribution to the original source." The prose portion of your message is a mere cut-n-paste, perhaps from Chat Line Guide: All the Benefits and Phone Help-Lines or another Creationist website that includes it. Please be sure to always provide credit when you quote someone else.
Rule 3 says, 'Respect for others is the rule here. Argue the position, not the person. The Britannica says, "Usually, in a well-conducted debate, speakers are either emotionally uncommitted or can preserve sufficient detachment to maintain a coolly academic approach."'
Additionally, it appears you posted the identical message at the Christians Unite discussion forum. While this is not against forum guidelines, combined with your earlier spamming of the website it raises serious concerns about your motivation. I am at this point unsure whether your interest is discussion or trollish activities.
Please open a new single-topic thread. If you use links, each should be accompanied with discussion explaining how it supports your main point. It the link is to an entire website or to a long webpage then you should identify how to find the relevant material. Do not include any cut-n-pastes without attribution. Also, to conserve this website's resources, please include no lengthy cut-n-pastes. Anything longer than a few sentences is considered lengthy. Please just link to any lengthy material, but be sure to accompany the link with discussion that indicates how it relates to your point.
This thread is closed.
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