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Author Topic:   Unidentified Critters - Help Figure 'Em Out
Modulous
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Message 16 of 19 (428988)
10-18-2007 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by jar
10-18-2007 10:14 AM


Re: What might this be?
Maybe it's a close cousin: A giant swallowtail, perhaps?

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Message 17 of 19 (428991)
10-18-2007 10:50 AM
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10-18-2007 10:42 AM


Re: What might this be?
Could be. We do get them down here.

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Message 18 of 19 (430524)
10-25-2007 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Brad McFall
10-17-2007 5:52 PM


Re: where's the head?
Hi Brad,
My best guess without better resolution is that you have what used to be called Conchostracans (clam shrimp). These are Branchiopods like Cladocerans, but are now three different orders (used to be one, but the genetics indicated paraphyly). They also resemble Ostracods somewhat, but if freshwater my bet is conchostracans.

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Message 19 of 19 (430696)
10-26-2007 8:18 PM
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10-25-2007 9:20 PM


Re: where's the head?-ostracods dont have 'em
I guess I may have been wrong.
You suggested
This
for this
but your last suggestion seems even better as I do not see the eggs look like this clam shrimp.
This
may be this
unfortunately I can not see the lateral digestive process in the EM. It might have been sheered off in the process or not extant in that particular species.
It does look like it might exist in this one
as tissue fragments between the lateral process
and the central gut


where phenomenological thermodynamics might be supplied with volume is what is of most importance for me with these inverts.
Dr. Gladyshev responded overnite with,
quote:
Certainly we can consider “the membrane and this liver may actually BE the chromatographic column”. The size of chromatographic columns can be different. From this point of view I agree with you. These can be the fragment of cells (organelles) or the fragment of tissues and so on.
Naturally it has been observed that Daphnia expel toxins and food a different rates.
Thanks again for introduction to the taxonomy of these things relating phylogeny to this columnizable ontogeny will be next for me.
I found a site
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that made the cladocerans a sister group of the Nots leaving the Anos’ as the outgroup thus suggesting something yet again different than you with the cladocerans separate from all three. I know herpetologists can not agree on the Apodians either.
The natural world is very diverse, too bad the polity is not likewise.
The pictures when not produced by me were found at these sites:
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http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/micropolitan/index.html?h...
http://www3.uakron.edu/biology/cgyncia1.jpg
http://www.lbm.go.jp/smith/ostra.html
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