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Author Topic:   The problems of big bang theory. What are they?
Elhardt
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Message 129 of 389 (430848)
10-27-2007 10:12 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by sidelined
10-26-2007 12:03 AM


Re: Once more...
Why would you postulate a hypothesis of a God independent of existence since this, by default, excludes him from any interaction with the universe itself? That God can neither be proven nor disproven only means that the hypothesis has no grounds in the first place since this would allow for any possibilty { teacups in orbit,invisible,immaterial dragons in the garage, etc} whatever and thus also leaves the realm of reasonable discussion.
Of course God can be proven. This may be a big shocker to some people, but there have been many who have seen him and interacted with him after dying. There are a whole series of phenomena that prove the existance of God. Both evos and creos seem to be totally clueless on that subject which is why it's always reduced to one side claiming anything they haven't seen in our material world does not exist, and the other side saying it does exist because it says right here in the Bible it exists. Materialistic denial vs blind faith. Whatever happened to objective scientific observable evidence?

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Elhardt
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Message 131 of 389 (430852)
10-27-2007 10:25 PM


This topic is way too long to read the whole thing, but I'll throw in some interesting info.
Astronomers tell us that no matter how far out into the universe they look (that means looking back in time to a younger universe), all spiral galaxies appear the same age to us, with the same amount of twist, and the same amount of development. That defies any common sense at all. There are many unexplainable things we see.
The universe is expanding if the redshift is doppler based. But we see redshift from the sun and we're not moving away from it. There is anomalous redshift all over the place totally confusing the picture.
I did see somebody mention the problem about things in the universe being older than the universe. Even the official NASA website admitted the problem. A 14 billion old universe with stars, galaxies, and dust clouds ranging from 17-19 billion years old is a problem. Apparently the way they're solving it is just hacking billions of years off the ages of things to bring them down below 14 billion years. Science did the same with the moon, by hacking 1.5 billion years off to bring it to the age of the earth to support their new theory. This is why one must take the things they say with a grain of salt.
Edited by Elhardt, : No reason given.

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Elhardt
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Message 132 of 389 (430853)
10-27-2007 10:28 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by Chiroptera
10-27-2007 10:23 PM


Re: Once more...
Yes, thanks, I know about the topic, but was just responding to other people who were dragging God into the picture, I guess in relation to the creation of the universe. I just wanted to make a short point and not actually go into the actual evidence which as you point out should be another thread.

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Elhardt
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Message 133 of 389 (430854)
10-27-2007 10:30 PM
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10-27-2007 10:25 PM


Ignore this post. I just learned I could edit the mistakes in my post #131, so no need for this post of corrections.
Edited by Elhardt, : No reason given.

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