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Author Topic:   Rapture (pre-trib, mid-trib or post-trib) ?
johnfolton 
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Message 1 of 4 (431442)
10-31-2007 3:15 AM


There appears to be a controversy if the rapture is pre-trib, mid-trib or post-trib.
Christians that take the bible literally believe when the last trump of God sounds is when the rapture will occur.
The question too some is that the rapture will occur after the last angelic trumpet is blown in the book of revelation.
If one reads the bible from a literal perspective the church will be raptured at the last trump of God not the last angelic trump.
When will the rapture occur (is the controversy) Christians at the very least believe that rapture will be before the great bowls of wrath.
Some believe the bowls of wrath is not a part of the tribulation. These are the post trib people.
Others who include the bowls of wrath as a part of the tribulation and instead of a post trip believe in a mid-trib rapture.
Others still who take the saints overcome by the beast as those left behind believe in the pre-trib rapture meaning those left behind will partake in the angelic trumpets not the raptured church.
When God blows the trumpet the church will be gone and a warning to those left behind.
The question is rapture to be pre-trib and is the saints mentioned in (kjv revelation 13:7) those left behind that choose Christ yet were overcome by the dragons power for those 42 months ? (kjv rev 13:5)
The book of revelation interestingly puts these saints that overcome the dragon by death are too part of the first resurrection and not subject to the power of the second death. (kjv rev 20:5-6.)
The bible mention the Lord God himself blowing the trumpet. Another supportive of the Lord God blowing his trumpet is mentioned in the book of Zechariah chapter 9:14. kjv
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Its about by using scripture to support pre-trib, mid-trib or post-trib rature. So in essense its a bit of a bible study unfortunately there is too many scoffers that are into bible study like jar that mocks biblical inerrancy, faith and belief so instead of bible study I'm leaning faith and belief.
I believe its good as is as christians can fill in the missing verses about the trump of God, angelic trumpets, mark of the beast, the anti-christ, second death, why the second resurrection is not the rapture and why the martyred saints are a part of the first resurrection even though not part of the rapture.
Also they can discuss why the raptured church and the martyred saints are both a part of the first resurrection and why the second death has no power over them and the thousand year ruling and reigning with Christ. And discuss why those not a part of the first resurrection will also be resurrected in the second resurrection and what and when is the second resurrection and why after the thousand year reign of Christ.
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Message 2 of 4 (431445)
10-31-2007 3:30 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by johnfolton
10-31-2007 3:15 AM


I would have thought 'Bible Study' would be more suitable.
I think you need to go through this carefully again editing it for coherence and typographical problems. At the moment I'm finding the whole thing difficult to read, especially when there are such substantial typos as the phrase 'tjpse ;eft bejomd tjat cjppse Cjrost uet' and you seem to have mixed up the rapture and the tribulation in your very first sentence.
TTFN,
AW

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Message 3 of 4 (431474)
10-31-2007 9:24 AM


Suggestions
Perhaps being apprised on this subject, I can interject some helpful input here.
I agree with AdminWounded that Bible Study would be the better forum here. Since this subject is common in fundamentalist evangelical circles, I am aware that the wording in the OP is proper and correct as per how this topic is discussed by most evangelicals. The rapture, tribulation and rapture time are all generally terms used in conjunction with this topic among evangelicals who discuss this. However it may be helpful if the abreviation "trib" were extended to "tribulation" for the benefit of those who are not apprised on this subject. The terms "pre-trib" and "post-trib" are as most Christians speak of this controversy in fundamentalist circles.
Other what I've suggested I would recommend that this OP is now suitable for promotion but will leave the final decision up to AdminWounded since he has initiated the admin action here.

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Message 4 of 4 (431482)
10-31-2007 9:48 AM
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10-31-2007 9:24 AM


Re: Suggestions
It reads considerably better now. I'll promote this to 'Bible Study'. I'm not sure that not liking Jar is really a sufficient rationale for putting it in a less relevant forum.
TTFN,
AW

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