For FFGFollower - Here's your chance!

FFGFollower, I thought this could be a place where you could present one or two topics to discuss. That could take the form of (for instance) "Such-and-such data from some branch of the sciences is contrary to what the evolutionary model predicts."Seriously, I'd like you to bring your hardest conundrum, your thorniest evidence, and be prepared to support it with your own words (not by plagarising others.)Also, if you like, you could view a summary of the evidence for evolution I whipped up a few weeks back and we could discuss some of that, too. Here's the link: EvC Forum: The Nature of MutationsWhy don't you look over that list, come back here, and tell me why you don't think that stuff points to a theory that says that the diversity of life we observe today is the result of random mutation and natural selection?

Yeah, you want me to present a different arguement to you because the one I presented to you first couldn't be answered, so now you want me to give you another one, hoping you'll be able to answer it, while at the same time, planning that everyone will foget about my previous post. No thanks. You can answer my first thread, before you start going off on a tangent.

He can't very well since all those threads have been locked for not following the forum guidelines. Your not being asked for a completely new argument, just your most damning piece of evidence confounding evolutionary theory from your first post.

Umm, you might consider re-reading what Crash posted. He's asking you to take one or two bits from your post that you personally think are the most difficult or impossible for evilutionists to answer for discussion. Addressing every single one of the websites you listed in your first post would require a book length response. Since this is a discussion forum and not a writer's guild, it appears that the request is reasonable. Given enough time and enough threads, I think it's entirely possible that your whole post will eventually be discussed - one element at a time. He's certainly not asking you to "present a different argument". Rather, the same argument broken down into bite-size pieces. And some indication on your part that you're actually willing to discuss the issues, of course.Care to try again?{edited to delete a spare "of course".}[This message has been edited by Quetzal, 06-17-2003]

Perhaps FFGs argument is irreducibly complex.

LOLOLOLOL!My favorite kind of humor.

Gosh, FFG, you're killing us. I've read a couple of your other threads, and I never noticed any one argument that you presented, much less that couldn't be answered.I wasn't one of the people who discussed anything with you, but I did read two of the threads, and I haven't seen you say anything except that everyone ought to go read any web site you sent them to, then respond to the whole web site.As of right now, there is no one reading this thread or any other of yours who thinks you have any argument to present yet. You just look like either a not very nice person or someone who's playing a silly game.

No, actually, we answered it and refuted it. You, on the other hand, couldn't defend it, because it wasn't your argument in the first place. It was like trying to argue with a book; you can yell and yell but paper won't listen.So, what I'd like you to do is present an argument in your own words, so that you're able to defend it - not just shrug off evidence to the contrary and use name calling.Now, are you here to discuss, or are you here to call names, argue in bad faith, and generally be an embarassment to persons of faith? Does your god tell you to make fun of people who are smarter than you? I doubt it, somehow. Maybe you'd like to take it up with him.

"Forum Guidelines" You want to prove what you believe is true, or do you want to follow your "Forum Guidelines".

Oh btw, check this forum out. The Evolutionists are really taking a beating on this one.......Login

We want to have a civil argument where we discuss evidence for both sides, in a calm and civil matter, with people who know what they're talking about.So far none of this describes you. We can only assume therefore that you have little to no ability to defend your position, therefore I ask you - why are you a creationist? It's obvious that you can't support it. Wheras we have significant evidence for evolution. You're clearly a "follower" in every sense of the term. Do you think god wants you to turn your brain off?

Hi FFG!There are 22 threads - any particular one we should look at?--Percy

Are you referring to this from a Doppelganger post in the "Some stuff about some evolutionists..." thread: Perhaps you could be more specific about where, exactly, this slaughter of the evolutionists is taking place?--Percy

yeah, and try lightening up a bit, we're not monsters you know

'As of right now, there is no one reading this thread or any other of yours who thinks you have any argument to present yet. You just look like either a not very nice person or someone who's playing a silly game. 'However you are wrong,he is not alone and most of what he said makes a lot of sense if you think properly about it,ok he came out all guns blazing but are we going to keep going on about that or look at the things he is trying to say?
Ffg you are not alone,but put the guns away , i tried it in the past and its a mistake no one listens,and the evos will jump on you for it,i speak from experience ,i have made similar mistake.