Is there a correlation between religious fundamentalism and holocaust denying?

All holocaust deniers that I have ever met in my life as well as all the holocaust deniers I have ever known in my life have all been religious fundamentalists, whether they're christian or muslim. The reasons varied from "further research need to be done" to "god is tooo good to allow such a thing to happen".First of all, is there a correlation between the two ideologies or is it just a coincidence? Also, I'm just curious whether we have holocaust deniers here at EvC. In other words, holocaust deniers, show thyselves.

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Or are they just extreme anti-semites?

I've never met an actual holocaust denier before, but a quick Google search states that atheist holocaust deniers exist. Or perhaps the term "fundamentalist" is obscure since a fundamentalist muslim and a fundamentalist christian are worlds apart, insomuch that they fundamentally believe in totally different ideologies.Maybe the term fundy should be placed over the heads of extremists of any sect, denomination, group, ideologue, or affiliation.

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“This life’s dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole, and goads you to believe a lie, when you see with and not through the eye.” -William Blake

I'm tired of the Holocaust being trotted out to justify every excess of Israel's oppressive actions against Palestinians, so in that sense I "deny" that the Holocaust excuses any conceivable action taken by Jews, but I certainly don't deny that it happened.Point taken, though, about holocaust denial and fundamentalism. It's not without reason that both creationism and holocaust denial are chapters in Michael Shermer's "Why People Believe Weird Things", a study of why people come to hold positions supported by no evidence.

Whoa there, Taz! Do you even know what a bonafide Christian fundi is? It doesn't appear so. FYI, 99.9% of Christian fundies not only believe the holocaust was indeed a historical fact but are avid supporters of the nation of Israel and our national interest in assuring Israel that the USA is supportive of their nation. Why? Because most Biblical Christian fundamentalists are aware of the prophecies pertaining to Israel being the messianic fulfillment of the coming 2nd advent of Jesus who will rule the world from Jerusalem.

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Since there is almost always two sides to every story, we should remember that we can't categorize all people in to one group, simply by virtue of... whatever.And since you are Mr. Empiricism, I thought you might like this series concerning facts about Pallywood, which is fast turning in to a cottage industry. Things aren't always what they seem to be. Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : typo

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“This life’s dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole, and goads you to believe a lie, when you see with and not through the eye.” -William Blake

Don't forget the holocaust denying jews like Yisroel Dovid Weiss -x

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Why?

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Because they need to finish the job.

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Because most Biblical Christian fundamentalists are aware of the prophecies pertaining to Israel being the messianic fulfillment of the coming 2nd advent of Jesus who will rule the world from Jerusalem.

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Right...meaning that all of the Jews are to be cast into hell.Let's not pretend that Christian fundamentalists are supportive of Israel because they like Jews.No, they're supportive of Israel because they need the Jews to die during Armageddon.I'll have to agree with the above: It isn't so much fundamentalism being connected to denial. It's anti-Semitism that can so often lead to both fundamentalism and denial.

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Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Can we stop using the term 'anti-semite'? It has to be the single stupidest term in misuse today. Jews aren't the only semitic people. In fact the largest group of Jew haters often referred to as anti-semites, are in fact semitic peoples. People of Arabic decent are Semites...-x

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Can we stop using the term 'anti-semite'?

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As soon as you can get the world-wide population of English speakers to come up with another term, yeah. It's about 120 years old, so you'll have your work cut out for you.

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Rrhain

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Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

As is talking about a jewish "race" ... but the problem is finding another word.

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American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This
an·ti-Sem·ite (n't-sm't', n't-)
n. One who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews.

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Not much wiggle there.

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Synonyms:
anti-Semite, black supremacist, chauvinist, diehard, doctrinaire, fanatic, klansperson, opinionated person, prejudiced person, sectarian, segregationist, sexist person, white supremacist, xenophobe

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And none of those work, the more general "bigot" is not related to any specific group at all.

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Huh. "Decimate" originally meant to kill one out of every ten persons. Nowadays, in everyday usage, "decimate" means pretty much to utterly devastate. Whatever words once meant, the meanings of words is how they are actually used by the people speaking and writing them. Etymological purists may not like it, but what can one do?"Antisemitic" means prejudice against Jews. I have never heard the word used to mean prejudice against a larger group of people. Heck, outside of the classification of certain languages in Northern Africa and Western Asia, I don't think that I have ever heard the word "Semitic" actually used in conversation as a label for people, except in artificial conversations about the meanings of words (like this one).

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Yes, you're absolutely right. Arabs are semites, which makes the term anti-semite not follow. The Jewish people should know the historicity of the word better than most, since it derived from Genesis 10.Semites are simply the progeny of Shem, one of three sons of Noah. Arabs fall within that category which is explicitly explained in the whole chapter.

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“This life’s dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole, and goads you to believe a lie, when you see with and not through the eye.” -William Blake

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