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Archer Opteryx
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Message 152 of 300 (429880)
10-22-2007 8:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by gen
10-14-2007 2:45 AM


All those sperm cells go somewhere.
This thread is intended to answer anyone's questions about Jesus
Did Jesus remain celibate all his life?
If so, what was his usual form of sexual release?

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Archer Opteryx
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Message 200 of 300 (431123)
10-29-2007 12:55 PM
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10-14-2007 2:45 AM


What gives, Gen? You told me this thread is 'intended to answer anyone's questions about Jesus.'
I asked two perfectly valid questions about Jesus. Here they are again:
Did Jesus remain celibate all his life?
If so, what was his usual form of sexual release?
Answers, please.
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Archer
All species are transitional.

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Archer Opteryx
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Message 234 of 300 (431412)
10-30-2007 10:46 PM
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10-30-2007 6:58 AM


Re: Speculation about Jesus impulses
Charismaniac:
None of us know matter of factly, but it is my preferred belief(which seems plausible to me) that Jesus did remain celibate all his life and that his form of release was sublimated from the physical to the spiritual. Perhaps the sublimated tension was the impetus for Him spontaneously healing or delivering another person through touch.
Thanks for the reply, Charismaniac.
I've heard things like this from religious people. Sublimation is a well-known psychological phenomenon, and a useful one. The problem is that it doesn't address this question.
We're discussing biology.
If Jesus was fully human, as we're told, and male, as we're also told, then his body produced millions of sperm cells every week, starting at puberty. (Can anyone provide exact biological stats?)
Those millions of sperm cells don't evaporate. They go somewhere. The body is always making more of them. That's what I meant about the necessity of release.
A celibate male (no sexual relationships) either has voluntary emissions (masturbation) or involuntary emissions (wet dreams). Jesus, if he remains celibate, would be obliged to experience one or the other, or both.
Both options involve erotic fantasy, physical stimulation and orgasm. That's reality.
If one starts from a premise that erotic fantasy, physical stimulation and orgasm constitute sin, the biological facts force one to conclude either that (1) Jesus was not sinless, or (2) Jesus was not 'fully human', in the biological sense.
If neither of these options is acceptable, the premise must go overboard.
What do you think?

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Archer Opteryx
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Message 261 of 300 (431966)
11-03-2007 5:21 AM
Reply to: Message 248 by iano
11-01-2007 10:26 AM


Re: possibilities
Greetings, handyman.
The claim (mine or anothers) of an experience of God can have but one real source.
Not at all. An experience can have more than one source.
The main categories Schraf posed were:
- The experience is indeed sourced from God
- The experience is sourced from some supernatural being who is not God
- There is no supernatural aspect to it and I'm imagining it. I am the source
More possibilities exist. A few that come to mind:
- The experience is natural, not supernatural, but I am not its source.
- The experience comes from God (according to one definition of God) but not from God (according to another definition of God)
- I imagine it, but my imagination is a conduit rather than the ultimate source.
- The experience is both natural and supernatural.
- The experience is neither natural nor supernatural.

Archer
All species are transitional.

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