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AdminNem
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Message 1 of 37 (432216)
11-04-2007 4:37 PM


You know the drill... Forum, thread, author, message number.
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Phat
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Message 2 of 37 (432624)
11-07-2007 7:36 AM
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11-04-2007 4:37 PM


Archer weaves together a fabric of learned development
Author: Archer Opterix
Forum: Is It Science?
Thread:On the philosophy of, well, philosophy ( :eek: }
Post #:210
Archer takes a moment to explain how seemingly unrelated fields of knowledge were later woven together and how a Doctor of philosophy can be a modern Renaissance Man! Well done!
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Percy
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Message 3 of 37 (432627)
11-07-2007 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Phat
11-07-2007 7:36 AM


Re: Archer weaves together a fabric of learned development
Wow!

Read this one folks, you won't regret it!

--Percy


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Jon
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Message 4 of 37 (432647)
11-07-2007 3:12 PM
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11-07-2007 7:36 AM


Re: Archer weaves together a fabric of learned development
SECOND to Archer's post! Beautiful!
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Archer Opteryx
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Message 5 of 37 (432661)
11-07-2007 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Phat
11-07-2007 7:36 AM


Modulous on Philosophy and Science
I nominate Modulous for an entire series of posts in the Philosophy of Philosophy thread. A good place to start might be with this one:

Modulous
'The Philosopy of, well, Philosophy'
Message 136 - 2007.11.01

www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=11&t=316&m=136 -->www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=11&t=316&m=136">http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=11&t=316&m=136

This thread has brought out some fine writing from anglagard and subbie, too, but Modulous has done some truly heavy lifting here. His discussion is always cogent, well supported, precise in terminology and consistent in presence. This is the sort of introduction to the subject that people pay tuition, if need be, to benefit from. It deserves wide attention.

It's especially fortunate for us to have a science specialist treating this subject. That perspective is needed in this forum and he is eminently qualified to supply it. Mod: many thanks.

_________

Edited by Archer Opterix, : URL.

Edited by Archer Opterix, : brev.


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Message 6 of 37 (432788)
11-08-2007 7:28 AM
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11-07-2007 4:37 PM


Re: Modulous on Philosophy and Science
Seconded!

Nicely done Mod.


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Modulous
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Message 7 of 37 (432814)
11-08-2007 11:48 AM
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11-07-2007 4:37 PM


Re: Modulous on Philosophy and Science
I thank you and purple for the nomination. But it wasn't that that made me smile it was

Mod: many thanks.

You're welcome. And thank you again.


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Message 8 of 37 (433329)
11-11-2007 12:16 PM


The Bat Packages it nicely
Message 29

Chiroptera produces another one of those posts that should be saved for the next time this kind of issue comes up.

He takes time to spell it out but doesn't use more words than necessary.


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Message 9 of 37 (433332)
11-11-2007 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by NosyNed
11-11-2007 12:16 PM


Re: The Bat Packages it nicely
Seconded. You beat me again, Sir.


Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Chiroptera
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Message 10 of 37 (433351)
11-11-2007 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by NosyNed
11-11-2007 12:16 PM


Re: The Bat Packages it nicely
Thanks, guys. I'm always pleased when someone enjoys the products of my efforts.
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Jon
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Message 11 of 37 (433433)
11-11-2007 11:00 PM


non-Creos commit fallacies too
Message 247.

Crash demonstrates why it is completely possible for even scientific atheist folk to resort to using logical fallacies when support runs dry for their argument.

Not in the spirit of POTM, text hidden

Edited by AdminModulous, : as above (so below...)


In considering the Origin of Species, it is quite conceivable that a naturalist... might come to the conclusion that each species had not been independently created, but had descended, like varieties, from other species. - Charles Darwin On the Origin of Species
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En el mundo hay multitud de idiomas, y cada uno tiene su propio significado. - I Corintios 14:10
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A devout people with its back to the wall can be pushed deeper and deeper into hardening religious nativism, in the end even preferring national suicide to religious compromise. - Colin Wells Sailing from Byzantium
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[Philosophy] stands behind everything. It is the loom behind the fabric, the place you arrive when you trace the threads back to their source. It is where you question everything you think you know and seek every truth to be had. - Archer Opterix The Shape of the Fabric (Message 210)


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Message 12 of 37 (433440)
11-11-2007 11:54 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Jon
11-11-2007 11:00 PM


I don't understand why Jon is moving an argument to a POTM thread
It's not a fallacious argument.

If you define a property as "all-red", where a given set has the property "all-red" if all of its members are red, then the union of a set that has the "all-red" property with a set that has the opposite property "not-all-red" winds up having the property "not-all-red", even though that looks like the fallacy of hasty generalization. It's actually a consequence of the fact that something defined as a universal property has an opposite property that, itself, is not universal.

In other words the opposite of "all" is "some", not "none."

Nontheless, Jon, it's wrong of you to try to bring the argument here in such a sarcastic way. If you'd like to actually address the post you're referring to, that would be great, and I can move this material over to that thread. You should delete your post, it's a misuse of the POTM thread and a violation of the forum guidelines. You should really know better.

{Not POTM forum material. Text "hidden". Use "Peek" to see it.

Jon's message is on shakey ground for the POTM forum. Perhaps it should be "hidden" also.

- Adminnemooseus}

I support the hiding of this post. I only intended that it should have been visible as long as Jon's was. -Crash

Edited by crashfrog, : No reason given.

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : See above.

Edited by crashfrog, : No reason given.


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Archer Opteryx
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Message 13 of 37 (433475)
11-12-2007 6:54 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Percy
11-07-2007 11:26 AM


Re: weaving the fabric
Thanks to Phat, Percy and Jon--and my apologies for being tardy in saying so.

A kinship exists among all people who seek to know. We choose our specialties as our gifts and temperaments dictate, but the discoveries we make are for the benefit of all. I treasure that kinship.


Archer

All species are transitional.


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Percy
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Message 14 of 37 (433877)
11-13-2007 11:26 AM


Rhrain on Entropy
The best explanation of entropy and thermodynamics I've ever seen:

Author:Rrhain
Forum:Intelligent Design
Thread:Entropy and the immutable law of death
Post:Message 64

The math is mostly simple, integrals are required only once that I noticed. If you've always wanted to understand thermodynamics, now's your chance.

This post is such a wonderful reference that we need a permanent link to it somewhere. The reference library would be a good place, but changes to it are difficult to accomodate with the current software, so hopefully we'll remember this post when it becomes easier to maintain pages of reference links.

Parenthetically to Rrhain: Sears/Zemansky? Didn't the ancient Romans use that text book? :D

--Percy


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petrophysics1
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Message 15 of 37 (433914)
11-13-2007 3:30 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Percy
11-13-2007 11:26 AM


Re: Rhrain on Entropy
The best explanation of entropy and thermodynamics I've ever seen

I'll give a second on that, very well done.

Parenthetically to Rrhain: Sears/Zemansky? Didn't the ancient Romans use that text book?

It would seem so. That rang a bell so went to the bookcase and pulled my 1st year Physics text. It is Modern College Physics by Richards, Sears,Wehr, and Zemansky second printing March 1964 (copywrite 1962). God, I'm getting old! The price I paid for it is stamped on the inside cover, can you believe........$15.95.


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