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Author Topic:   Discussing the evidence that support creationism
EighteenDelta
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Message 6 of 301 (433595)
11-12-2007 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Aquilegia753
11-12-2007 3:47 PM


Your first bullet is a glaring false dichotomy. You present two options when there are innumerable other possible options. The most likely is that the first sexual reproduction was probably monoecious like many plants, or hermaphroditic animals, able to reproduces alone or with exchanging genetic materials, having both male and female reproductive organs. The common earthworm is a great example.

"Debate is an art form. It is about the winning of arguments. It is not about the discovery of truth. There are certain rules and procedures to debate that really have nothing to do with establishing fact ” which creationists have mastered. Some of those rules are: never say anything positive about your own position because it can be attacked, but chip away at what appear to be the weaknesses in your opponent's position. They are good at that. I don't think I could beat the creationists at debate. I can tie them. But in courtrooms they are terrible, because in courtrooms you cannot give speeches. In a courtroom you have to answer direct questions about the positive status of your belief. We destroyed them in Arkansas. On the second day of the two-week trial we had our victory party!"
-Stephen Jay Gould

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EighteenDelta
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Message 8 of 301 (433597)
11-12-2007 4:17 PM
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11-12-2007 4:11 PM


You can't even stay on topic in your own thread.

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EighteenDelta
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Message 144 of 301 (435862)
11-23-2007 11:54 AM


Its important to note that our solar system didn't even form out of the big bang, but instead from the death of a giant star that went nova. After the nova of the previous star, from those materials, our solar system formed. Our sun is a second generation star. There is a 10 billion year gap between the big bang and our solar systems formation. Life would not exist without that first giant star, the fusion of hydrogen into higher atomic forms provides the oxygen, nitrogen, carbon, etc. that we see today. This is where we get the saying that we are all made of star stuff. The discussion of angular momentums in relation to our solar system and the big bang, is not only incorrectly represented, its totally unrelated.
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