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jar
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Message 4 of 42 (433992)
11-13-2007 10:18 PM


Death Threats
The most chilling part of the special was the number of people who received death threats for opposing ID and Creationism.

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jar
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Message 9 of 42 (434179)
11-14-2007 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by clpMINI
11-14-2007 7:04 PM


Death Threats by Biblical Christians
While I doubt that all Biblical Christians can be considered so depraved, it is always amazing how often Biblical Christians seem to resort to things like death threats. It has even been seen here.
Edited by jar, : fix subtitle

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jar
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Message 28 of 42 (434308)
11-15-2007 11:44 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Percy
11-15-2007 9:10 AM


Percy on death threats
Percy writes:
Those prominently on the evolution side often received threats, in the case of Kitzmiller (lead plaintiff), even a death threat. And after ruling against ID Judge Jones received sufficiently serious threats that he received round-the-clock security. Can anyone in their wildest imagination ever see an evolutionist sending death threats to the school board members who voted for ID, or to Behe, Dembski, Hovind or Ham?
But death threats and threats of violence from Biblical Christians really is not that unusual. It has even happened here, both direct threats of violence and also literal death threats. It seems to go back to your initial paraphrase, "If you believe that being saved means you'll one day be united with God and the people you love, then the 1st amendment doesn't matter, science doesn't matter, nothing else matters."
I posted a thread once on the subject, jar - On Christianity and IMHO the underlying issue is that too often they behave as though they really do believe that the End does Justify the Means, even when the end only exists in their fantasies.

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Message 30 of 42 (434340)
11-15-2007 2:04 PM


More on the book "Of Pandas & People"
P&P is published by "Foundation for Thought and Ethics" (although it is questionable if they can think and it seems that they have no ethics).
The first clear example of the dishonesty of the Foundation for Thought and Ethics (FTE) can be seen in the publisher of the book.
There is a well known publisher of text books named Houghton Mifflin. FTE though chose a small Texas printing company named "Horticultural Printers, Inc." that prints mostly agricultural trade material. However for this book, a Trade Name of "Haughton Publishing Co." was used.
Note the similarity between Houghton and Haughton.
Second, as pointed out in the PBS program, the biggest change between the first and second editions was the wholesale substitution of Intelligent Designer for Creator based on the outcome of Edwards v. Aguillard.
But wait! There's More.
quote:
A forthcoming third edition is to be retitled The Design of Life. Jon Buell, the president of the Foundation for Thought and Ethics, said that the ruling in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District that intelligent design was religious would make the textbook "radioactive" in public schools and would be "catastrophic" for the marketability of both the present (second) edition and the forthcoming third edition, citing possible losses of around half a million dollars. The renaming of the book is viewed by some as way of mitigating this and at the same time distancing the book from past controversy.
So it appears that ethics for the "Foundation for Thought and Ethics" means "doing whatever is necessary to fool gullible people into believing this is an honest effort and not just a conjob to get money."
Read more

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Message 37 of 42 (434472)
11-15-2007 11:23 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Jazzns
11-15-2007 11:11 PM


Re: Thanks --
He does. But he uses Canadian bits.

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