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Topic: Was there Gravity at dawn of history?
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 6 of 37 (435025)
11-18-2007 4:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 5 by simple 11-18-2007 4:36 PM
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Re: Non Alternative Certainty?
This is a science forum. Using the Bible is referred to as a "Special Pleading" and so irrelevant, unimportant, of no value or worth. Thanks for playing but you do not even earn parting gifts. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
This message is a reply to: | | Message 5 by simple, posted 11-18-2007 4:36 PM | | simple has replied |
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 13 of 37 (435041)
11-18-2007 5:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 9 by simple 11-18-2007 5:12 PM
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Re: Jar's Special Pleading
The Science for my position is that the Bible is a Special Pleading to the supernatural. As I said, your references to the Bible are irrelevant, immaterial, unimportant and worthless. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 24 of 37 (435087)
11-19-2007 12:27 AM
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Reply to: Message 22 by Rrhain 11-19-2007 12:06 AM
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What is the evidence for the long term presence of gravity?
I suggest that we simply ignore simples theories and discuss the actual evidence for the long term presence of gravity. For example, is the shape of the earth and other bodies evidence that gravity has existed as long as the solar system? What about the orbits of the planets? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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some evidences for long term gravity
Is there a relationship between the angle of debris slopes and gravity? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 26 of 37 (435091)
11-19-2007 12:34 AM
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Reply to: Message 15 by CK 11-18-2007 5:52 PM
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Re: why is this daftness allowed to go on?
I suggest that we simply describe for the vast audience that reads threads but may not post actively some of the evidence for gravity being the same now and in the past. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 28 of 37 (435094)
11-19-2007 12:47 AM
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Reply to: Message 3 by Phat 11-18-2007 9:02 AM
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Genesis 1 shows gravity
In Genesis 1:14-19 we find the creation of a sun and moon. Without gravity neither the sun or the moon could exist. It you remove gravity there is nothing to compress the hydrogen into a spherical shape and in fact it would simply float away in an ever expanding cloud. The existence of sun, moon, planets, and the fact that anything revolve around the sun shows that the force of gravity has existed as long as our solar system. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: What is the evidence for the long term presence of gravity?
As I replied to Phat, the very existence of sun, moon, and planets depends on gravity. There is no way that they would exist if gravity had not existed. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: why is this daftness allowed to go on?
Yes. For water to flow instead of simply balling up due to cohesion, there must be gravity. Look at the classic pop-sci images from the space race where the astronauts would let a drop free and watch it form free floating balls of liquid. Gravity must have existed for at least as long as our universe. If at any time during the 14+ billion years there had been no gravity, the universe we see would not exist. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 35 of 37 (435104)
11-19-2007 1:19 AM
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Reply to: Message 30 by iceage 11-19-2007 12:59 AM
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Re: Is There a Dope Smoking Forum?
While the nonsense asserted by simple is just that, nonsense, this is an opportunity for us to point out the various evidences for the existence of gravity over the long term. It is a chance to present in one thread many of the factors that show gravity as we know know it has existed for at least the last 14+ billion years. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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