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Aquilegia753 Member (Idle past 5217 days) Posts: 113 Joined: |
The thing is, you can't disprove anything. You can say, "oh, it's impossible to separate an ocean so a nation can walk across," but how can you disprove God's acts? Doesn't it say, "with God, all things are possible..."? I agree that you can't disprove evolution, but you can't disprove the Bible simply because things back then aren't happening now.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 3506 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
Where does it say that?
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truthlover Member (Idle past 3376 days) Posts: 1548 From: Selmer, TN Joined: |
Realized I was responding to a post over a year old and deleted the whole thing.
Edited by truthlover, : No reason given.
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truthlover Member (Idle past 3376 days) Posts: 1548 From: Selmer, TN Joined: |
Matt. 19:26 and Mark 10:27
We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails. shammah.rcv.googlepages.com Rose Creek Village To be great, one does not have to be mad, but definitely it helps. ~Percy Cerutty, Australian track coach, 1952 Olympics
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jar Member Posts: 33957 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 2.1 |
Too bad. I almost always learn something from everyone of your posts.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 368 days) Posts: 16112 Joined: |
Well this seems a little confused. It is perfectly true that an omnipotent God could do anything, but that doesn't mean we can't tell what he has or hasn't in fact done. He could have made the whole world bright pink, but we can be sure that he didn't. Hence, arguments against various aspects of the Bible don't rest on a claim that God couldn't do such-and-such a thing (the Flood, for example) but on the fact that the evidence shows that he didn't.
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truthlover Member (Idle past 3376 days) Posts: 1548 From: Selmer, TN Joined: |
Just saw this. Thank you. Actually, though, I was irritated with something you wrote in this thread a couple years ago, and I'm not sure I wrote it very nicely. In fact, I'm sure I didn't, so I don't mind rewriting it. I'll tell you what it was, though, more politely. It's from message 6.
I don't belong to the Southern Baptists or the Assembly of God, but if I did, I would find this pretty insulting. The Southern Baptists are the largest Protestant denomination in the US, and while they have no official statement on evolution, it is clear from what you can find on their denomination's main web site (sbc.net) that they are generally opposed to evolution. They certainly don't accept it! The Assembly of God, maybe 3rd or 4th on the list, has a statement of faith leaving not much room for evolution, and from experience I can tell you their members are almost exclusively opposed. When you say things like "every major Christian church," it sounds to me like you're disparaging all the fundamentalists as not major Christian churches and also like you're looking down your nose at them. That's how I feel, and I am both an evolutionist and openly opposed to the Baptist gospel. It would have to be worse if I were a Baptist. We cannot direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails. shammah.rcv.googlepages.com Rose Creek Village To be great, one does not have to be mad, but definitely it helps. ~Percy Cerutty, Australian track coach, 1952 Olympics
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jar Member Posts: 33957 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 2.1 |
Good points, but I was thinking world-wide.
I should have said Almost all. So if I offended anyone and if they think I might be saying their sect is not a major Christian Church, I apologize. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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truthlover Member (Idle past 3376 days) Posts: 1548 From: Selmer, TN Joined: |
I figured you were thinking world-wide. I could be missing something, but I think there's only a few "world-wide" churches in that sense. It's really just the Catholic, Orthodox, and Anglican churches, though I realize there's at least seven branches of Orthodox churches. So "all" the major Christian churches just doesn't sound like a reference to them.
And thank you, by the way, for the comment about learning from my posts. People, with only rare exceptions, are very kind to me on this forum.
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nator Member (Idle past 1486 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: So, don't you consider Catholics to be Christians, then?
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truthlover Member (Idle past 3376 days) Posts: 1548 From: Selmer, TN Joined: |
Hi, nator, I've been gone to Myanmar the last two weeks.
I'm not sure how you got that from what you quoted. Maybe you could explain. However, as a general response, I don't consider the Roman Catholic Church, the Baptist Church, the Methodist Church or any other major Christian church to be "real churches." I do consider it possible for Catholics, Baptists, and Methodists to be real Christians. Myanmar, however, got me to wondering more whether I'm a real Christian, not someone else. I have a series of blog posts on that at shammahrcv.blogspot.com. If you get bored, that is. My blogs tend to be long.
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achristian1985 Inactive Member |
I am perturbed, flabbergasted, and disturbed by the continuing efforts of ignorant, misguided, and scripturally incorrect religious people to foist their misconceptions, under the guise of ‘scientific theories’ (creationism, intelligent design, etc.) upon the educational system. In addition to the obvious damage and hindrance to our educational curricula, these attempts are a huge misrepresentation of spiritual reality and Biblical truth; and are a tremendous disservice to God and His interests concerning the human race. Please objectively consider the enclosed information. May it finally put to rest the ‘red herring’ of an evolution/Genesis conflict. Should you find it to be of value, feel free to disseminate it as far and wide as you wish.
The validity of evolution would not, in the slightest degree, diminish the evidential necessity of the existence of God, nor would it preclude the validity of divine creation. There are six specific categories of life formed in the six?day account: 1. Plants in the sea, 2. Vegetation (plants and trees) on the Do you really believe that this is coincidental? How did Moses know the correct order when he wrote Genesis thousands of years ago, long before the rise of the scientific methods that have objectively verified the Genesis account? The mathematical odds against this being coincidental are 720 to 1; in other words, 720 to 1 that this account is divinely inspired, since divine inspiration is the only alternative to coincidence. Truly the Bible is the inspired Word of God!
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killinghurts Member (Idle past 4310 days) Posts: 150 Joined: |
quote: This argument is archaic. The onus is on the claimant to prove something exists. You can't prove something doesn't exist. For example, I could run around claiming you are a cannibal. There is no way to prove to me or anyone you're not a cannibal. All those people who went missing last year in your area? You ate them. Prove to me you didn't. Start to get the picture?
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 3506 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
Under current knowledge Fish can be found as far back as the Cambrian and mammals precede the birds. The first true birds don't appear until the Cretaceous whereas the mammals are found in the Jurassic and possibly the Triassic. From The Ancestor's Tale There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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