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Author Topic:   Was there a worldwide flood?
bluescat48
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Message 263 of 372 (436743)
11-27-2007 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 258 by IamJoseph
11-27-2007 6:22 AM


Re: What does the bible say? What does IamJoseph make up?
The Noah story ends with the Abraham, which serves as a background to what the OT is narrating, which I have not seen else such a level of historical writ. Here is the first introduction of the Chaldees, Abraham,Sarah and the city of Ur, now in Iraq:

Except for the fact that at the time of Abraham, the Chaldees (Chaldeans) did not own Ur. Depending on exactly when Abraham existed, Ur was a Babylonian, Akkadian or Sumerian City. The Chaldeans didn't occupy Ur until less than 100 years before the so called carrying off to Babylon. - Visual History of the World, National Gerographic.


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bluescat48
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Message 304 of 372 (511061)
06-05-2009 11:54 PM
Reply to: Message 303 by Peg
06-05-2009 11:29 PM


Re: Worldwide flood -- not
Peg writes:

well the sediments are not consistent in the case of the Omo valley and Lake Rudolph. Even though the fragments Richard Leakey found were dated to 2.5 million years old, the skull was the same shape as modern man. He said that other bone fragments that were found such as the leg specimens were indistinguishable from the same bones of modern men.

but they were still dated to be 2.5 million years old.

Could you give me the reference to the above?


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 306 of 372 (511063)
06-06-2009 12:16 AM
Reply to: Message 305 by Peg
06-05-2009 11:54 PM


Peg writes:

Because it is a fact that the oceans were much lower then they are know as is seen by the river channels that go deep into the ocean.

there are huge land ridges that connect the continents which were at one time above the ocean and are now beneath it

This occurs whenever there is an ice age. Where do you think the water that forms the massive glaciers comes from?

there are fossil remains of many different animals, such as lions, tigers, bears, and elk, together in common strata, which may indicate that all of these were destroyed simultaneously.

Catastrophe, possibly still no evidence for a global flood.

There are whole frozen mammoths coming out of the ice right now with undigested food in their stomachs which shows they died suddenly which points to a sudden catastrophic event

Catastrophe yes but still not evidence of a global flood. How about freezing to death at the beginning of an ice age?


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 319 of 372 (511077)
06-06-2009 12:57 AM
Reply to: Message 311 by Peg
06-06-2009 12:42 AM


Peg writes:

It doesnt mean that its not flooded though. Same goes for the earth. Just because we were not around when the oceans were lower, does not mean that the earth is not flooded now. When the evidence is that the oceans were at one time much lower, then the only logical conclusion is that it must now be flooded.

The oceans have been lower and higher many times. Each ice age lowered the oceans and each warm age raised them.

Recently we had 1/3 of the state of Queensland covered by water

Which shows only that there is such things as localized flooding. Flooding is very common in many areas of this planet.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 322 of 372 (511080)
06-06-2009 1:02 AM
Reply to: Message 315 by Peg
06-06-2009 12:50 AM


Re: Worldwide flood -- not
Peg writes:

So how can a 1.75 million year old fossil resemble modern man?

The same way a 400,000,000 year old fossil dragonfly resembles a modern dragonfly. There are many current living things that resemble earlier species. That also goes for similar modern species ie: jaguars & leopards.

Edited by bluescat48, : missing quote


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 323 of 372 (511081)
06-06-2009 1:07 AM
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06-06-2009 12:57 AM


Peg writes:

If they didnt like the cold, why not migrate to warmer climates?

Do you realize how long that would take with the ice appoaching at a faster rate than the mammoths could flee.


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bluescat48
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Message 346 of 372 (511306)
06-09-2009 5:52 AM
Reply to: Message 345 by pandion
06-09-2009 1:47 AM


Re: Genetics and Pigs
What do you mean by type? Species, sub-species? Type is not a biological classification.

Edited by bluescat48, : typo


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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