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Author Topic:   Was there a worldwide flood?
IamJoseph
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Message 266 of 372 (436817)
11-27-2007 6:00 PM
Reply to: Message 263 by bluescat48
11-27-2007 12:09 PM


Re: What does the bible say? What does IamJoseph make up?
Fine. What I pointed out was this was the earliest reference to Ur and the chaldees, as a factor that genesis knows about the region it describes. There is no question that a historical fact is just as valid as any scientific fact - if not more so. Some like to make science as the only diety in town, forgetting this is only one of the many faculties of study and examination, equal to and alongside other faculties as historical, mathematical and geographical facts.

Where history cannot be vindicated, there is no science or maths, meaning it is upto science to evidence itself with validated history: where a lab test fails this test and cannot back itself with population and mental prowess factors, its back to the drawing board. the latter is a vindicated constant of factual history before us, and thus the operative measuring factor.


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IamJoseph
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Message 267 of 372 (436820)
11-27-2007 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 264 by Quetzal
11-27-2007 2:23 PM


Re: What does the bible say? What does IamJoseph make up?
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your deity would have had to know about the existence of the island of Tasmania, n'est-ce pas?

Correct. Thus it was not listed prematurely, and that this was not appropriate to point out to 5500 year Noah is also a relevant factor here. However, if you look at *world* maps even a few centuries ago, Tasmania would not even be listed as a landmass, and this is appropriate proof of its relevant spacetime.


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IamJoseph
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Message 268 of 372 (436826)
11-27-2007 6:37 PM
Reply to: Message 265 by Vacate
11-27-2007 3:52 PM


Re: What does the bible say? What does IamJoseph make up?
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You have introduced a historical account that pre-dates the OT and confirms a localized flood. Does a historacal account of anything not need grammar?

I have not done that, but it is evident this is the case with the OT. According to its narratives, the OT was wriiten 3,200 years ago, while it's diarised calendar describes a 6000 year history - the OT is describing a retrospective history in this instant, and this is common knowledge. While many theological documents do this, they do not contain the evodential historical stats and specs seen in the OT.

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Why do you keep saying such nonsense when your even contradicting yourself in the same post? There is "historical portrains" of this period seen elsewhere - your using it as supporting evidence for your claims! The details that you claim would not be known to the world without Genesis are in fact recorded in other documents, ones you have attempted to use repeatedly as support.

The flood is mentioned elsewhere in other writings, and it constitutes a small segment of the Genesis account. There is no need for a retraction, but I concede the texts can be read differently as to the size of the flood, while all the surrounding descriptions here are authentic and generally accepted by most archeologists: I refer to descriptions of names, places and datings, seen here for the first time in such detail.


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