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Author Topic:   Human rights, cultural diversity, and moral relativity
crashfrog
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Message 239 of 270 (436813)
11-27-2007 5:14 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by Silent H
11-27-2007 5:02 PM


You need to show an ability to withhold personal attacks.
To the extent that your relentless dishonesty becomes an obstacle to every discussion with you, it has to be discussed. Discussion simply can't occur when one party is determined to be relentlessly contrarian and disingenuous.
Thus, the behavior has to be brought to your attention, because until you change it, there's not much else to talk about. If you want to grapple with my questions - which I did raise, civilly, in posts 4 and 16, which you ignored - you have the same opportunity now that you did in the past. Nothing's stopping you aside from your own bad behavior.
Civil discussion may occur just as soon as you're prepared to be civil, Holmes. But like always it appears you'd rather be dishonest. What explanation can you provide for your behavior?

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1466 days)
Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 241 of 270 (436844)
11-27-2007 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 240 by Silent H
11-27-2007 7:18 PM


I ended this after your behavior in another thread
I rebutted this misrepresentation in post 153, which you chose not to respond to. Instead you've chosen to repeat the misrepresentation, which is precisely the sort of dishonesty I was talking about.
Can you really not see what you're doing, and why I find it so objectionable?
I didn't have a problem with your first one here and a couple others (which may be the ones you just cited).
Yet, you've chosen to respond to nearly every single other post of mine, the ones you're complaining are full of "personal attacks", even though that's not really true.
It's not really clear what I'm supposed to conclude from that, except that it's merely another example of your relentless dishonesty and contrarianism.
If you're interested in civility, then by all means, begin acting civil. If you're interested in serious discussion with me, there are posts of mine you can reply to. The only civility that is holding up this debate is coming from you. Like I said before, you have exactly what you asked for in the other thread - every opportunity to put dishonesty in the past and begin addressing rebuttals in an honest way.
You asked for it - but, as I explained, you already had it. You still do. Why don't you take advantage of it, and begin to post honestly?

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1466 days)
Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 243 of 270 (436849)
11-27-2007 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 242 by Silent H
11-27-2007 7:35 PM


When the question was can we agree to be civil, that answer is an unqualified no.
But that's clearly nonsense. "No" is not what I said at all. You asked if the conversation between us can be civil. I told you that it would be, just as soon as you desisted in the behavior I've described.
One of those behaviors is the one you're doing here, right now, where you completely misrepresent the meaning of a message posted to you. So, by extension, when you cease misrepresenting your opponents, the discussion will have taken one step closer to being completely civil.
If you want civil posts of mine, that don't refer to your behavior, messages 4 and 16 await substantial reply from you. So you have every opportunity to engage me in a civil way.
So why don't you?
Do you have any more questions?
Just a few - why do you refuse to cease the misrepresentations and dishonesty? Why do you continue to misrepresent my objections to that behavior as "personal attacks"?

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1466 days)
Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 245 of 270 (436855)
11-27-2007 7:49 PM
Reply to: Message 244 by Silent H
11-27-2007 7:46 PM


Sigh. Another dodge.
As you wish. So long as you actually intend on responding to points, or better yet ceasing the objectionable behavior that we're discussing, that's fine. More likely you'll simply use this as a smokescreen to misrepresent me yet again.

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