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Message 16 of 69 (53932)
09-04-2003 10:01 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by PaulK
09-03-2003 3:45 AM


All recomendations appreciated!
Here's what I have bought so far to read on the plane:
Kitchen Confidential-scathing restaurant memoir
Three Junes-chick novel about three families
Life of Pi-wierd-sounding story about an Indian boy and a Bengal tiger trying to survive on a lifeboat after their ship sinks.
The Man Who Ate Everything-Food Writer Jeffrey Steingarten describes how he overcame his many food predjudices.
Comfort Me With Apples-Food Writer Rught Reichel chronicles her life in food where her last book (Tender at the Bone, which I loved) left off.
Lonely Planet Guidebook's "Tokyo"
All are books I have had in mind to read anyway.
I am hoping to have the same experience as when I was 10; getting so lost in several books that a whole day would go by and I wouldn't even notice the passing of time.

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crashfrog
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Message 17 of 69 (437917)
12-01-2007 10:44 PM


The Movie
Resurrecting this old thread to say that the wife and I caught a sneak preview of "The Golden Compass", and I enjoyed it. She didn't like that they nerfed the ending (but it is kind of a downer in the book) but I thought it was pretty wicked cool, overall.

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Message 18 of 69 (437918)
12-01-2007 10:53 PM
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12-01-2007 10:44 PM


Re: The Movie
She didn't like that they nerfed the ending
I've read that because they're not sure that the sequels will be produced the first film ends short of where the first book ends in order to provide a "happy" ending. The actual downer ending was shot and will be put at the start of the second movie should it be produced.

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Message 19 of 69 (437922)
12-01-2007 11:40 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by crashfrog
12-01-2007 10:44 PM


Re: The Movie
The church wants it banned, so it's going to do well.

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Message 20 of 69 (438721)
12-05-2007 11:08 PM
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12-01-2007 11:40 PM


Re: The Movie
Which is too bad since the issues it raises certainly are reasonable ones to address. I would think that if the movies are anywhere near what is in the books they would be great things to watch in Sunday School.

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Message 21 of 69 (438747)
12-06-2007 2:46 AM
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12-01-2007 10:44 PM


Re: The Movie
Just finished working on the special effects for this (I work in VFX). Though I feel the Daemons could have been further emphasized, I liked it overall.
As for the ending, I've heard they're going to shift it to the start of the sequel (assuming it gets made, that is).

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Dr Jack
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Message 22 of 69 (438766)
12-06-2007 6:55 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dan Carroll
08-15-2003 10:39 AM


I've just finished reading 'Northern Lights' (which I'm presuming is the same book as is called 'Golden Compass' in the US). Cracking book; but, boy, does Mr. Pullman labour his metaphors at times!

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Granny Magda
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Message 23 of 69 (438929)
12-06-2007 3:47 PM
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12-05-2007 11:08 PM


Re: The Movie
Interestingly, here in the UK, no less a religious figure than the Archbishop of Canterbury has said that he is a fan of the book. I can't see why most religious folks would object to this book, since the picture it paints of the Magisterium/Church is recognisably one of out-of-control fundamentalism, the kind of extremism that disgusts both atheists and moderate believers.
I'm a big fan of the book, looking forward to the movie.

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Message 24 of 69 (438957)
12-06-2007 7:02 PM
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12-06-2007 3:47 PM


Re: The Movie
I can't see why most religious folks would object to this book
There is that part towards the end where, you know, they kill God.
I'm just sayin'. I hope they don't take that out of the movies.

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Message 25 of 69 (439023)
12-07-2007 4:40 AM
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12-06-2007 7:02 PM


spoiler alert
who kills god? It certainly isn't lyra and will. It's not her father and mother (names escape recall).
In fact, it's god's second in command who is responsible for the death of god. You know, keeping him holed up in a crystal as a weak pathetic man. ANd holed up so long that if he were to get out he'd die? And then not protecting the guy well enough.
I would think the big thing the church might object to would be the whole apsect of the revolt against god's second in command being a good thing. So much for the concept of hell.

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Message 26 of 69 (439304)
12-08-2007 6:00 AM
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12-07-2007 4:40 AM


Re: spoiler alert
Yeah, that's one of the things I like about HDM; no-one needs to kill god in the end, he just blows away in the wind, having outlived his usefulness. If only...
I do understand why the book upsets some people, I just think that its primary target is uncompromising fundamentalism, not moderate Christianity.

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bluegenes
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Message 27 of 69 (439312)
12-08-2007 8:03 AM
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12-06-2007 3:47 PM


Re: The Movie
Granny Magda writes:
Interestingly, here in the UK, no less a religious figure than the Archbishop of Canterbury has said that he is a fan of the book.
Liberal religious types won't mind it, but many religious people will.
As this is EvC, here's a kind of connection. One of the five "blurbs" on the inside of the front cover of my paperback copy of Richard Dawkins' "The God Delusion" quotes Pullman.
He says:
quote:
The God Delusion is written with all the clarity and elegance of which Dawkins is a master. It is so well written, in fact, that children deserve to read it as well as adults. It should have a place in every school library - especially in the library of every "faith" school.
I hope the Archbishop has taken note of this.
Apparently the "dreaming spires" of Oxford disguise a nest of atheists.

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jar
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Message 28 of 69 (439333)
12-08-2007 10:30 AM
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12-08-2007 8:03 AM


Re: The Movie
While the God Delusion was not on our reading list when I was attending a Christian Church School, other books such as Mark Twain's Mysterious Stranger which addresses many of the same issues in a somewhat more readable manner, was. One of our tasks in Sacred Studies was to build and defend the case for Atheism.
GOD certainly has nothing to fear from what people believe, and despite what many seem to think, if GOD exists, GOD exists regardless of whether or not anyone believes in Her.

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Message 29 of 69 (439363)
12-08-2007 1:03 PM


5 stars
I thought the movie was great, I just saw it last night.
Some of the action was a little cheesy, but not enough to loose a star. The special effects were awesome.
I was surprised that the story presumed the existence of the soul.
And so far, the Magisterium has not been made out to be as bad as I thought it was going to be.

  
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Message 30 of 69 (439568)
12-09-2007 7:35 AM


Hi all,
I have just seen it, it's excellent. The effects are superb & it's very well cast. I was concerned that the ending was going to be naff, but they just ended it before Lyra found her father but after the rescue. If you think about it, it will actually make a great beginning to the second film.
Mark

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