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Author Topic:   Is Logic a Valid Science in the establishment of ID as Scientific.?
Dawn Bertot
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Message 308 of 312 (438396)
12-04-2007 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 306 by JB1740
12-04-2007 12:19 PM


Re: Summarizing it.
and science evolved beyond this because of the numerous problems that have been repeatedly explained in this thread with doing science that way. If you are arguing for us to return to non-evidence based science, you need to demonstrate why science done that way works better than the way we currently do science.
This of course is not the same as saying that the method discussed is not truth of act. Its application and usage is what you need to refute, not that there may be some other way as well. Not rocket science fellas.
D Bertot

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Dawn Bertot
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Message 309 of 312 (438398)
12-04-2007 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 301 by NosyNed
12-04-2007 11:09 AM


Re: Summarizing it.
Nosyned writes.
And this does, indeed, summarize the whole thread.
The Fifth is THE classic example of an axiom. The use of axioms in Euclid's geometry is the classic use of them. Heck it is probably why we use the word axiom (which sure looks Greek to me).
That you can make the above statement shows how far off in your own little world you are.
If I am not mistaken it was you fellas contention, throughout this whole thread, that for an axiom to be valid it must correspond to physical things which would allow a physical test. But since it is characteristic of you fellas to change the rules constantly, then it does not suprise me at this point, that you would make this statement now.
Further, I restate my position, his so-called axiom is nothing of the sort. And we call it an axiom, because it is descriptive of itself, not vis versa. Enjoy Though.
D Bertot

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Dawn Bertot
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Message 311 of 312 (438404)
12-04-2007 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 310 by JB1740
12-04-2007 12:41 PM


Re: Summarizing it.
What the heck does this mean? Which method are you referring to here?
What the heck is "truth of act?"
and science evolved beyond this because of the numerous problems that have been repeatedly explained in this thread with doing science that way. If you are arguing for us to return to non-evidence based science, you need to demonstrate why science done that way works better than the way we currently do science.
Sorry for that typo. You made the above statement. And I was simply saying that your statement is not the equivolent of saying that the axiomatic method is not truth in Fact. You need to demonstrate why that method is not valid as well as the oldest. Thats all i was trying to say.
Why has the magical, mystical wizard, not chastised us yet for going over. Can anybody answer this axiom?
D Bertot

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