The use of logic in establishing truths

Dawn Bertot No it not an inability to see the point you are trying to establish. What you miss is that the statement "dead men tell no tales" is true only in the context of that which is agreed upon by the people discussing the validity of the statement.
Now, when speaking about the body of the corpse, we can say that the dead tell no tales only in the context of the body function of speech which is an arbitrary parameter we employ for the purpose of our arguement.In the hands of a skilled forensic pathologist dead men tell volumes writ in their body after death. In this instance we can deny the statement dead men tell no tales because we have now supplied a new context which uses language to establish a new definition to the phrase by showing a new way of looking at the idea through metaphor.In this instance the phrase is now not valid.The reason is because the agreed upon axiom has changed.

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"Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere."Albert Einstein

Dawn Bertot Ok so let us take the premise that you are trying to establish as fact, Intelligent Design.
Could you summarize here what Intelligent Design means according to you?

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"Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere."Albert Einstein

LucyTheApe And the axiom required for evolution would be what?

LucyTheApe Not at all. The only thing different is the axiom is found to be true only in a limited case.The sum of the angles of a triangle equaling 180 degrees is true in 2 dimensions.It simply fails as an axiom when applied to 3 or more dimensions.In that case the axiom undergoes a shift to adapt the model used to explain the new information.Edited by sidelined, : No reason given.

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"Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere."Albert Einstein

LucyTheApe Random is applied to series of events {a series being necessary to show patterns} and defines a series of events as random when past events do not influence subsequent events.If you take a coin and flip it ten times in a row what would you expect the next coin flip to be?

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"Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere."Albert Einstein

LucyTheApeCute. Care to try to continue conversing though?

PercyOk Percy I agree.Perhaps it is time to start a thread devoted to the subject

LucyTheApe I do not understand this.Are you implying that randomness has a specific numerical value?
Best to take this to a new thread because it is not going to just come to you without deeper insight into the nature of randomness methinks.