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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4216 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
Evidently, you don't seem to understand that the US Constitution specifically forbids a religious test for officeholders. Given the obvious intent of such founders, why and how should such a religious test apply to state employees? This seems to be a problem with a large percent of the voting population. There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
anglagard writes: Evidently, you don't seem to understand that the US Constitution specifically forbids a religious test for officeholders. Given the obvious intent of such founders, why and how should such a religious test apply to state employees? The Bill Of Rights also calls for free and unabated exercise of religion both in and out of office to the extent that the founders had church in the halls of congress, instituted Bible and Watt's Hymnal in public schools etc. Now even the Ten Commandments which are inscripted in the capitol are forbidden in many public buildings. How does your religious test weigh in here? BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The Bill Of Rights also calls for free and unabated exercise of religion both in and out of office to the extent that the founders had church in the halls of congress, instituted Bible and Watt's Hymnal in public schools etc. Please show where the Bill of Rights "calls for free and unabated exercise of religion both in and out of office to the extent that the founders had church in the halls of congress, instituted Bible and Watt's Hymnal in public schools etc."
Here is a link to it if you should actually want to read it.
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Rail Bird Junior Member (Idle past 1625 days) Posts: 15 Joined: |
Dembski has just posted at Uncommon Descent regarding the Comer firing and took the opportunity for a shot at Barbara Forrest. The post wasn't particularly interesting, but the first comment was. The person making the comment stated that the HIV virus was not considered an organism. I've been away from Biology for many years. Are viruses not considered living organisms?
Sorry, this was directed at message 1, not to Buz. Edited by Rail Bird, : insert living before organism and correct who message was directed to.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
This has been debated in the past and off topic here for indepth debate. What is applicable to congress should apply across the board so far as the 1st Amendment's free exercise law goes.
As for the Bible and Watts Hymnal in the schools, that's been cited over many times and you should know by now that it is factual. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Buz claims:
The Bill Of Rights also calls for free and unabated exercise of religion both in and out of office to the extent that the founders had church in the halls of congress, instituted Bible and Watt's Hymnal in public schools etc. I linked you to a copy of the Bill of Rights. Please point out where it "calls for free and unabated exercise of religion both in and out of office to the extent that the founders had church in the halls of congress, instituted Bible and Watt's Hymnal in public schools etc." Or is this just yet another example of Buz misrepresenting things and when called on it running away? Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
If you will itemize wherein I've missinterpreted the 1st, I'll respond, that is if you edit out the personal insult while you're at it. Hereafter if you want responses from me you treat me with a reasonable amount of respect as per the old forum guidelines.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The immeasurable present is forever consuming the eternal future and extending the infinite past.
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Buz writes:
The Bill Of Rights also calls for free and unabated exercise of religion both in and out of office to the extent that the founders had church in the halls of congress, instituted Bible and Watt's Hymnal in public schools etc.Where does the Bill of Rights call for
As to treating you with respect, I have the utmost respect for you and so wonder why you must always misrepresent things in your posts? AbE: Whatever Buz. It is simply not worth it. Edited by jar, : original content hidden. Edited by jar, : fix sub-title Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!
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subbie Member (Idle past 1281 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Update from NCSE
Those who would sacrifice an essential liberty for a temporary security will lose both, and deserve neither. -- Benjamin Franklin We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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nator Member (Idle past 2196 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: What nation is that? It can't be the US, since we lost the right to habeas corpus not too long ago.
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anglagard Member (Idle past 863 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
Buzsaw writes: The Bill Of Rights also calls for free and unabated exercise of religion both in and out of office to the extent that the founders had church in the halls of congress, instituted Bible and Watt's Hymnal in public schools etc. Now even the Ten Commandments which are inscripted in the capitol are forbidden in many public buildings. How does your religious test weigh in here? Here are the pertinent parts of both the Constitution and Bill of Rights of the United States of America, aka the supreme law of the land direct from the National Archives website. From Article VI:
quote: The First Amendment to the Constitution:
quote: So, how is my original question answered? If no religious test "shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States," why should a religious test be applied to federal or even state government employees? I think the intent of the founders is obvious. You do realize, of course, these laws protect your freedom of religion, not your 'freedom' to impose your minority fundamentalist religion on others by force. Edited by anglagard, : take out rant Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza
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