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LucyTheApe
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Message 269 of 304 (440230)
12-12-2007 6:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by nator
04-01-2007 9:06 AM


Integrity
Withdrawn inappropriate message
Edited by LucyTheApe, : Withdrawn

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LucyTheApe
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Message 276 of 304 (440244)
12-12-2007 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 274 by reiverix
12-12-2007 9:32 AM


Re: Integrity
As a relative newcomer to the boards I'm always a bit curious about the claims to a 'floundering theory'. Can you show where it is floundering or did you just make that up?
When I talk about the "Floundering Theory", I'm talking about the study of the phenomenon that surrounds a certain species of fish who not only have two eyes on one side of their head but also have a foot in their mouth.
Edited by LucyTheApe, : typo

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LucyTheApe
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Message 277 of 304 (440245)
12-12-2007 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 271 by Granny Magda
12-12-2007 8:04 AM


Re: Integrity
Your right again Granny. I've withdrawn that stupid remark.

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LucyTheApe
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Message 279 of 304 (440257)
12-12-2007 11:16 AM
Reply to: Message 278 by RAZD
12-12-2007 10:14 AM


Re: Integrity
In the US there are at least 2000 Christian Religions, and growing weekly. They all claim to have a handle on the truth. At least 1999 of them must be wrong (on the condition that no two have the same tenet).
That's their problem. That's faith. Doesn't need reasoning.
My problem on the other hand is that evolutionary science is inductive by it's nature. It uses inductive reasoning (you guys call scientific method). Therefore the conclusions however well presented by their arguments are non the less probabilistic, but that's fine on it's own. The error factor compounds when conclusions are built on conclusions.
For this reason any science that uses induction as a basis for reasoning must be thorough, vigorous in leaving no stone unturned and spotless in their analysis. Let me use a recent example, the hobbit. A find was made that was very interesting. But without proper scrutiny the news flashed all around the globe that a new human ancestor was found. It's news for a couple of weeks or a month and ONLY then does the peer review kick in. Normally in science a paper is presented and reviewed before it becomes news. Why?
I'm not worried about me, because these things interest me and I will keep an eye on developments. What I'm worried about is that the kids are being brainwashed by supposed truths before the facts are laid on the table. If I can use an analogy. Take for example when a politician or public figure is accused of some scandalous act. The appropriate minister comes out and declares that It's inappropriate to comment and people shouldn't speculate because there is an investigation underway and any discussion could hinder the legal process. Then the body undertaking the investigation has 18 months or so to complete their investigation. Of course during that time people have forgotten. Do you see where I'm coming from so far?
Edited by LucyTheApe, : why?

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LucyTheApe
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Message 281 of 304 (440282)
12-12-2007 1:03 PM
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12-12-2007 12:55 PM


Re: Integrity
exactly

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LucyTheApe
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Message 293 of 304 (440609)
12-13-2007 9:09 PM
Reply to: Message 288 by AreWeNotMen?
12-13-2007 12:13 PM


Integrity
quote:
Anti-Evolution Biologist Sues Woods Hole
A biologist filed suit this week against the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, asserting that the academic facility terminated him because of his religious beliefs that oppose evolution, according to an article in The Boston Globe today.
In 2004, Nathaniel Abraham was a postdoctoral fellow working for Mark E. Hahn, a Woods Hole senior scientist who studies how chemicals in the environment, including pollution, affect marine organisms. According to the Globe, Mr. Abraham told his supervisor that he did not believe in evolution and was asked to resign a month later. Mr. Hahn stated that Mr. Abraham should have known the job and the lab’s research grant from the National Institutes of Health involved using evolution to study how the chemical systems in marine organisms change over time. Mr. Hahn said that Mr. Abraham should have known that evolution was integral to the lab’s work because it was clear in the job description and in the grant proposal.
Story
But of course the integrity of your objectiveness remains intact!

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