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AdminPD Inactive Administrator |
The moderation concerns in the Atheism and Logic threads have been resolved to the best of our ability.
Since the discussions concerning moderation in these threads have ceased to concern moderation, it is time for those discussions to close. ThanksAdminPD |
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
I wrote a long message on the thread "Teacher Fired for Disagreeing With Literal Interpretation of Bible". Evidently NosyNed wrote his warning while I was writing, so I didn't see it until I posted. (Not that it's much of an excuse, since I admit that I knew it was off-topic.) I promptly hid most of my message when I saw Ned's warning, except for the part about Beretta being continually off-topic, and digressing further with each subsequent post.
In response, AdminNosy suggested:
quote: Probably a good suggesting, but any suggestions for a topic? Beretta brought up several and I'm not sure which one he would most like to talk about. Added by edit: Actually, I do have an idea (evolution and morality), but it'll be a bit before I can compose it. Anyone can still offer suggestions, though. Edited by Chiroptera, : No reason given.
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3048 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
what
Edited by Cold Foreign Object, : No reason given. Edited by Cold Foreign Object, : No reason given.
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2513 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
you'll have to ask him. It seems he suspended himself.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
Whoa, that thing looks mad. I'm not that mad. I'm just disappointed that AdminPD shat all over this thread. Sure, we were not strictly on the topic (although we were close), but I was enjoying the discussions and felt like we were actually "getting somewhere". I was really interested in reading the answers to the serious questions in my post. Now, however, its all over. Admin PD sprayed her graffiti and the discussin must cease. I feel like I got Moosed. I guess its really no big deal, I just want to express my dissatisfaction with that moderation. Whoopty-frickin-doo if we're a little off the topic when the discussion is going good and actually getting somewhere. Is it really that big of a deal?
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Taz Member (Idle past 3291 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
CFO writes:
It was an evolutionist conspiracy. All the evolutionist admins pressured him into suspending himself. Why is NJ suspended? Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2513 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
thank you for agreeing with him. That would mean he is now wrong (or would he still be right since I disagree?).
CFO, your "logic" is truly a wonder to behold.
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imageinvisible Member (Idle past 5918 days) Posts: 132 From: Arlington, Texas, US Joined: |
HA! Its almost worth getting suspended for BUT YOU LOSE CATHOLIC.
A CRAWLS ON FOUR LEGS FLYING INSECT http://www.insecta-inspecta.com/mantids/praying/index.html THE WORD OF GOD IS INFALABLE. BUT I STILL LOVE YOU. {edit. I take that back. It will be worth getting suspended for.} *Heaven and earth may pass away, but the word of the Lord endurith forever.* OFF TOPIC! This thread is restricted to discussing moderation procedures. Anyone disrupting this process may lose access to this forum until the situation is resolved. Posts not addressing moderation procedures may be rendered invisible. Edited by imageinvisible, : spelling Edited by imageinvisible, : see edit Edited by imageinvisible, : added text * Edited by AdminPD, : Warning - Use the peek button to view hidden contents.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
I feel like I got Moosed. Yeah, I know how you feel.
Message 44 was edited by moose bleeding red all over it. I want to know what part of:
quote: Is not about evolution. I then provided a redirection of the poster to a site to learn about his PRATT du jour without discussing it at all, and closed with:
quote: In other words specifically pointing out that the issue of the PRATT had nothing to do with evolution, even though newflyer OBVIOUSLY thought so and needed to be told otherwise. How does that NOT relate to evolution? Maybe I should use red for the background of all my posts ... Enjoy. Edited by RAZD, : merryxmas we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share.
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Adminnemooseus Administrator Posts: 3974 Joined: |
The following is the entire part of the message that I red highlighted and commented on:
The foremost and most recent one is the helium leak rate. Oh, you are a fun one aren't you? Here's an intellectual excercise: Let's assume for the sake of argument that there are two theories of evolution -- yours and mine. We'll call yours Newflyerolution and we'll call mine RAZDolution. We'll assume for the sake of argument that your "helium leak rate" is a valid observation, and it totally disproves Newflyerolution (or at least so you claim). The problem is that it does not disprove RAZDolution, because RAZDolution doesn't depend on the "helium" problem to study biology (I leave that to the physicists, chemists and others that deal with this issue). What is RAZDolution? The theory that evolution - the change in hereditary traits in populations from generation to generation - explains what we see in life that exists today. Life can be a little as 100 years old and RAZDolution is still valid. Now we can compare RAZDolution with standard evolution as taught in universities and as studied by scientists and find that it is a good match. What this demonstrates is that your understanding of evolution is invalid, not that evolution is invalid. What I find hilarious is that in Message 19 you replied that "no one is 'bobble headed' ... " and then you go on and post a series of PRATTs from creationist websites that you accept without question as being true ... when they turn out to be known falsehoods from creationist sites, well know as being PRATTs (see example #2 on the list of 4 they give). For instance search this site for "helium":
Index to Creationist Claims and find the following listed:
quote: And then from the link to Claim CE001: quote: You can read the article to see why this is not a problem. Notice that they do not talk about evolution or biology. {Inserted by edit by Adminnemooseus - The above highlighted in red is off-topic. It not only does not belong in this topic, it does not belong in this forum (Biological Evolution). Someone take it to a proper place, if that line of discussion is to continue.} I wanted to do something without blowing a lot of time on the effort. Essentially I was trying to head off "Helium diffusion" from becoming a further part of the topic. In all, a heavily blotched effort on my part. My apologies. Adminnemooseus
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Nimrod Member (Idle past 4916 days) Posts: 277 Joined: |
Everytime he hears the term "Palestine" as a neutral term for the land (which is a scholarly convention) , he dirupts every thread with off topic crap.
He has not only refused to shut up on one thread he saturated with crap against Palestinians , but is now starting all over again on another thread. Is that clown really worth loosing productive discussion over? (Im sure he has actually cost this site many good posters too!) Its the Israel and Juduah in History and Tradition thread in Bible Accuracy.
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AdminPD Inactive Administrator |
I recommend you respectfully explain to IAJ how you are using the term Palestine as a neutral term. Once you do that, if he continues to disrupt contrary to your use of Palestine, then we have a stronger reason to act.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Thanks for closing Evolution and the BIG LIE when I asked.
I do want to discuss the issue on the thread, but want to keep it from running off-topic (particularly in response to creationists trying to avoid the issues). Could we reopen it with a statement that:
The issue of the opening post was whether we could use this definition for evolution: Evolution is the change in hereditary traits in populations from generation to generation Or at least acknowledge that this can be used as a working definition for the sake of the argument to see what develops from it. It was to set a foundation for further discussion, not to discuss examples of evolution or what could or could not happen - that will be covered later. The consensus appeared to be yes, so we moved on to part 2. The issue of Part 2 was whether we could use this definition for a "Theory of Evolution": A Theory of Evolution is that all the diversity of life is explained by a synthesis of validated theories on how hereditary traits in populations change from generation to generation. Or at least acknowledge that this can be used as a working definition for the sake of the argument to see what develops from it. Again, it was to develop a foundation for further discussion, not to engage in discussions of examples of evolution or what could or could not happen - that will (still) be covered later - in part 3. We never got to that consensus and this topic is being reopened so that can be done. Part 3 will be examples of how this theory applies to some evidence to show that it works in those cases. At that point we can discuss examples where people think the theory above cannot explain the diversity of life, and whether this is due to contradictory evidence or just absence of evidence. Thank you for your consideration. Feel free to copy this for reopening. Thanks again. Edited by RAZD, : a instead of the theory we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share.
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macaroniandcheese  Suspended Member (Idle past 3928 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: |
is there a reason that had to be so blinding? a simple qs would have been sufficient.
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GDR Member Posts: 6202 From: Sidney, BC, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 1.9 |
I was just looking at that Science Disproves Evolution thread.
You actually have a brand new, living breathing creationist on the site. So what happens? Great excitement because everyone wants a shot at him. Already he has 4 different responders. There are so few creationists on the site that just maybe when one comes along it would be more constructive to let him/her debate with one person at least for the first part of the thread. Everybody is entitled to my opinion. |
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