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Author Topic:   Christian Outreach on trial in Colorado
Phat
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Message 1 of 10 (440479)
12-13-2007 11:31 AM


Colorado has had more than its share of news stories involving the hypocrisies and failures within Christian organized religion.
Recently, a disturbed young man, Matthew Murray, went on a mission of what he called "revenge" against a Christian community that neither understood nor helped him find mental sanity.
Gunman legally amassed weaponry in year's time
Evidently, the families of the victims and the dead gunmen met and reconciled, if that is possible. Link
To what extent are the Christian Pastors and churches responsible for this disturbed young mans final actions on earth?
Who is to blame? The overly strict parents? The Christian culture itself?
I hesitate to blame all christians, yet admit that this is our problem. If we are supposed to reach out to the needy and the hurting, where did we fail with this young man?

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Phat
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Message 6 of 10 (440806)
12-14-2007 4:54 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by jar
12-14-2007 4:20 PM


Re: Holding back data?
There were like 10 articles on Matthew, and today when I went to look, I could only find this one. Also, after further research, I found this one.
I fail to see why you think I am holding back data.
What makes you think I am trying to somehow protect Christians? I certainly don't go all out to indict organized Christianity as being all fouled up, as you would probably do!

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Phat
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Message 8 of 10 (440812)
12-14-2007 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by jar
12-14-2007 5:04 PM


Re: Holding back data?
OK, I looked in the other paper and found the statement I shared with you in chat: This statement shows us a picture of the mental anguish of Matthew.
Matthew Murray writes:
"All I found in christianity was hate, abuse (sexual, physical, psychological, and emotional), hypocrisy, and lies," writes the poster
DyingChild_65 ends his rant by saying: "Like Cho, Eric Harris, Ricky Rodriguez and others, I'm going out to make a stand for the weak and the defenseless this is for all those young people still caught in the Nightmare of Christianity for all those people who've been abused and mistreated and taken advantage of by this evil sick religion Christian America this is YOUR Columbine."
The question is whether the blame should focus on Murrays alleged mental illness, which most churches are ill equipped to treat, or whether the church culture itself fueled the anguish.
I personally feel that Matthew was not given the love he so desperately sought through the church groups, but without knowing more details, I am not prepared to indict CCOI Christianity, which you yourself have said "teaches ignorance."
Edited by Phat, : spelling mistakes

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