THE TABERNACLE of His body

Hello,I just retrieved it from a book written on the outside and sealed within.Second Clusterimpositione - The High Priest benefited greatly from the Roman occupation, and was afraid of it being taken away.eclipsed - The High Priest's statement directed to the pharisees remained the same: Ye know nothing at all - and his statement did not coincide with the pharisees' opinion. Actually part of the scribes and pharisees were afraid of the Hebrew people: "What do we? for this man doeth many miracles. If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him". The actual "great benefit" that part of the scribes and pharisees were afraid of losing was the one that had been attested by the eternal words, saying: They enjoy the attention they get on the streets, and they enjoy being called Rabbi. Everything they do is for show. On their arms they wear extra wide prayer boxes with Scripture verses inside, and they wear extra long tassels on their robes. *And how they love to sit at the head table at banquets and in the most prominent seats in the synagogue.Other Translation/ Their lives are perpetual fashion shows, embroidered prayer shawls one day and flowery prayers the next. *They love to sit at the head table at church dinners, basking in the most prominent positions, *preening in the radiance of public flattery, receiving honorary degrees, and getting called "Doctor" and "Reverend".Instead of giving you the Eternal's Law as food and drink by which you can banquet on Elohim, they package it in bundles of rules, loading you down like pack animals. They seem to take pleasure in watching you stagger under these loads, and wouldn't think of lifting a finger to help.The Eternal words attested in the Book of the Prophet ZecharYah, where it is said "they will look at me whom they pierced” do coincide with the piercing of His side with a spear by a roman soldier.In the same page, of the same Book, are found the eternal words regarding what type of print were in his hands:And they shall say to him: What are these wounds in the midst of thy hands? And he shall say: With these I was wounded in the house of them that loved me. * Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that cleaveth to me, saith Yahweh of the Hosts: strike the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn my hand to the little ones.The print of wounds in His hands were caused by unction, for the Lamb died by being ANOINTED with glittering white light of JEHAVEH/Yahweh OF THE HOSTS that glitters inside the clouds of all heaven.His UNCTION with glittering light took place when He DELIVERED the Spirit,
and He was ANOINTED with that glittering light by the Eternal and Celestial JEHAVEH of the Hosts;Even in that moment He also overcame the death. The death did not take His Spirit away from Him, but He DELIVERED HIS HOLY SPIRIT in the Hands of the Higher Eternal and Celestial, while He had his hands tied together against one another; tied ABOVE his head, with ropes to a Hebrew green tree. Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : words

Hello CrazyDiamond7,What you have posted certainly makes one think.Why would a trial before the Sanhedrin council happen in the first place if not because of the Law that they were given by Yahweh?And why bother saying to Pilate, "We have a Law and He shall die according to our Law", if they were looking for Yahshua to be tried by a different law,other than their own, as well as dying in a different manner?Did Yahweh give the Hebrew people a Holy Law or a Roman law?Jas

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-Hello Jasmine77,The bestiae[imposed doctrines] and the false prophet[theology] state that "..the type of death Yeshua had to die required piercing His hands and feet (Psalm **:**).."-But the word piercing from the bestiae's doctrinal image and its statement does not coincide with the Hebrew texts of the Sefer Tehilim.-What makes one think that the same imposed doctrine/beast i.e. Roman catholicism, which, for more than a thousand years have been inserting its man’s name, its ancient version Iesus Kristus, and its own versions for the word Adonai in its “translations” of the Scriptures would care about keeping the Book of Psalms and the whole Brit Hadash[New Testament] intact?-[Book of Psalms] - Sefer TehilimTo the chief Musician, according to Ayeleth HaShahar, a Psalm of David.
My —, my —, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from helping me, from the words of my loud complaint?
O my —, I cry in the daytime, but you do not hear; and in the night, and I have no rest.
But you are holy, O you who are enthroned on the praises of Israel.
Our fathers trusted in you; they trusted, and you saved them.
They cried to you, and were saved; they trusted in you, and were not disappointed.
But I am a worm, and not a man; scorned by men, and despised by the people.
All those who see me mock me; they move the lip, they shake their head, saying,
He trusted on the Adonai that he would save him; let him save him, seeing he delights in him. But you are he who took me out of the womb; you made me hope when I was upon my mother’s breasts.
I was cast upon you from the womb; you are my from my mother’s belly.
Do not be far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help. Many bulls surround me; strong bulls of Bashan surround me. They open wide their mouths at me, like a ravening and a roaring lion.
I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint; my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaves to my jaws; and you lay me down in the dust of death.For dogs surround me; the assembly of the wicked encircle me; they seize my hands and my feet like a lion. I can count all my bones; they look and stare at me.They divide my garments among them, and cast lots for my clothing.
But you, Adonai, be not far from me; O my strength, hasten to my help.
Save my soul from the sword; my only one from the power of the dog.
Save me from the lion’s mouth; for you have answered me from the horns of the wild oxen.
I will declare your name to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation will I praise you.
You who fear the Adonai, praise him; all you the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all you the seed of Israel.
For he has not despised nor loathed the affliction of the afflicted; nor has he hidden his face from him; but when he cried to him, he heard.
My praise shall be of you in the great congregation; I will pay my vows before those who fear him.
The humble shall eat and be satisfied; those who seek him shall praise the Lord. May your heart live for ever!
All the ends of the world shall remember and turn to the Lord; and all the families of the nations shall worship before you.
For the kingdom is the Adonai’s; and he is ruler over the nations.-And its doctrinal image also states that "..their leaders benefited greatly from the Roman occupation, and were afraid of it being taken away.."-I. - The bestiae's concept is not founded in the High Priest's statement, but in the opinion of part of the pharisees [who were not the High Priest], saying:"..and the Romans shall come and take away our place.."-The High Priest's statement did NOT COINCIDE with the opinion of part of the pharisees:Caiaphas, being the High Priest, said unto them: Ye know nothing at all-Note: the quote of Scriptures as originally written: our place in the nation, instead of "place and nation",for the Nation had already been taken by the Roman empire.-II. - The bestiae's statement does also omit the reason why the Romans would come and take away the pharisee's benefits.Actually part of the pharisees [not including the High Priest] were afraid of the Hebrew people:"..for this man doeth many miracles. If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him.."--

.To state that the Tabernacle of His body died on a Roman cross from the Roman laws, is the same as to say that the High priest did not ask Pilate to do the will of the Sanhedrin [Council of seventy-one sages of the Hebrew Court] which would in no way include the Roman cross as part of the fulfillness of the Law that was given to children of Ishrael..

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Isn't a question of what type of wood was the tabernacle suspended,

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because the significance is not to be blaspheming against the tabernacle,
not one of the blasphemies that would have to be heard from the mouth of the scarlet--obscure beast--doctrine upon which sits the babylonical--great in size-- Romanesque Mother prostitute--church/city.

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Because one of the seven hills is the place where the antique vates--sorcerers used to make their vaticynius--guessings for the ancient Roman government,

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and the doctrine of the Nichopolitans--i.e. to spiritually bow before nichos-- is found there, where also lies the throne of the dragon that was in Pergamus.

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What is the spiritual definition of blaspheme: 'when something that is not eternal
nor kashosh is said to be eternal and holy' --and vice-versa--

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When the scarlet beast opens its mouth to blaspheme the name,
one of the blasphemies against the name is the word Iesus,
because IESVS isn't the eternal Hebrew name by which
the apostles have called the Word become flesh.
A version. Isn't real.

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That same beast also blasphemes against those that dwell in heaven: id est: 'when something that is not there --in the holy place--, is said to be there; --or is said to be Kadhosh and ressurrected-- like the legions of canonized spiritual images of saints that proceeded from those vaticynius --vaticynare--'.

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And the blasphemy against the tabernacle of the Word become flesh, has been against the tabernacle of His body, because no real friend would like others to blaspheme the body of a loved one,

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especially if that body is the first-fruit that resurrected.Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : tiny detailsEdited by CrazyDiamond7, : vaticynareEdited by CrazyDiamond7, : more laconicEdited by CrazyDiamond7, : English Language recent r'evolutions

Hey crazydiamond7, I'm not really sure where you are coming from with this line of reasonimg or where you intend to go with it; however I would like to make a few coments.First it seems like you are tring to say that Jesus who is called the Christ is somehow the anti-christ I'm not really sure how you arived at this conclution especially since it was Jesus who first warned us of the coming deciever (i.e. the anti-christ). I would like to point out some errors you have made. The name Jesus is the literal greek translation of the Hebrew name Jashua (Yeshua) which means 'of God'. the name Christ in the greek translation of the Hebrew word Meshiach (Messiah) which means 'Gods chosen One'. These two names together equate to 'of God, by God, for God.'As for His appostles and what they called Him there is atleast one occasion (since you don't seem to like chapter and verse for easy referance purposes I'll let you find these verses on your own) where Simon Peter calls Jesus 'Lord' and another when, asked by Jesus who they think He is, Simon Peter states that He (Jesus) is the Meshiach/Messiah; Gods chosen One. There are even several places where Jesus assosiates Himself with God. "I and The Father are One" , "Before Abraham was I Am" , and when questioned by the priests as to whether or not He is the Meshiach, He answers "I Am, and you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven." Again another "Hearafter the Son of Man will sit on the Right hand of the Power of God." are you then the Son of God? "You rightly say that I Am." There is another area where messenges come to Jesus to inform Him that Herod was seeking to kill Him, and He sends them back with a message to Herod and then makes the statement "it is not good that a prophet of God (speaker of God) should die outside the walls of Jerusalem, but that His time has not yet come. Another time is mentioned in the gospels where the children are shouting out to Him 'Hosanna to the Son of David.' And when He was questioned of this He quoted scripture "Have you not read, Out of the mouths of babes and nursing infants, thou has perfected praise." Still another when He is riding into Jerusalem where all the inhabitant thereof are cring out "Hosanna to the Son of David! Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD! Hosanna in the Highest!" And when confronted on this He says "If they where to be silent the very rocks would cry out."As to referances to the cross in the old testiment, tell me in egypt before the passover curse came and the Hebrews where making preperation. What sign did they make when they spread the blood of the lamb over the door post and lintels? I'll tell you, they made the sign of a cross, not once but twice, for 'each' door. As for the Catholic sign of the cross on the forhead with the right hand, that is done in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, not just in the name of the Son. Furthermore this is preaty much strictly a Catholic tradition. Also the word Elohim [ 'aLHYM ] is plural. (the I M or Y M makes it plural) It is clearly ilustrated in the first 2 chapters of Genesis that Elohim has three personages or personas. Elohim in the first sentance of Gen. 1 and the Spirit of Elohim in the secound part of the same sentance and YHVH Elohim which is introduced in chapter 2 and is the main form of God thoughout the Bible. YHVH Elohim is the physical embodiment of Elohim. Interesting to note; the personal singular of the word Elohim ['aLHYM] is only used 'once' in the entire Bible, and by only One Person, Jesus, in the gospels. Eli, Eli, Lama sabachthani! or 'aLHY, 'aLHY, Lama sabachthani!As far as no mention of the lamb being crucified I direct you to the Psalms, particularly the one that begins with the sentance I just mentioned; My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me? A Psalm of David which fortells the birth, life, crusifixion, and resurection of the Meshiach. (It's the one right before-"Ye though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil.") Hmm, maybe 'we' introduced the numbering of chapters and verses to make them easier to referance. (for those of you who would like to know I speak of the 22nd Psalm)

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Jesus is the literal greek translation of the Hebrew name..
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Hi,In the versions of Scriptures
the words Jehav-shua [I AM IS THE SALVATION], Adonai and Eliyoon (Most High)
have been substituted with IESVS/jesus, Baal (Lord) and G-d/elohim,These substitutions have been done for three reasons:1st. - in order for the fulfillness of prophecy with regard to what was predicted to be viewed standing where it ought not; in a holy place or holy bible;2nd. - in order for the accomplishment of the eternal instructions in the books of the ancients that says: I did what separates my name from being polluted and they will not defile the holiness of my name any longer. - And as separate means sanctify, reserve and hide again as a hidden treasure in a field of eternal words, it can be viewed that the versions of scripture, which proceeded from the spiritual ordinations of the beast, are useful before the Eternal and Celestial. For whenever the word IESVS or jesus is pronounced by the imposed doctrines and abominations [beliefs/faiths] of the earth, this fact alone helps to not profane the pronunciation of the actual name of the LAMB, which has been kept separated, sealed and sanctified as a hidden treasure in a field.3rd. - because the Most High would in no way determine that the pronunciation of the HOLY Hebrew Tetragram, [which requires KADHISH/HOLINESS], should remain into a version of scripture that had to be left to the clerical worshippers of saints/spiritual images of the Catholicism and to the false prophet [7th day Laodicean theology] and to the abominations and beliefs of the earth. The origin of the word(s) Iesus/Iesu.
This evidence of the origin is founded in three real facts:1st. - The original Hebrew name of the Word that became flesh, which translates 'I AM IS THE SALVATION', contains the eternal Word [YHWH/I AM] that was in the beginning.2nd. - Pilate didn’t write the Hebrew name that contains the Tetragram, because the Word that became flesh was condemned precisely for pronouncing the same Hebrew name which translates ”I AM IS THE SALVATION’.3rd. - Words that Pilate wrote on the plaque: I.E.SUS NAZARENUS REX IUDAEORUM - INRIId Est Suspended Nazarene King of JudahWhile writing the Roman word(s) I.e.sus on the plaque attached to the green tree where the Lamb was suspended, having both His hands tied together with ropes above His head, Pilate wrote words only and not a name, not even names. The word Id also held the meaning of Idem, which means the same. Est is the Latin root of the word estar [to be]. Ancient Roman language: The same who is suspended/above is Nazarene Rex Iudaeorum. Soon it is viewed that while writing the word(s) I.e.sus, Pilate did not write a name, not even names.1st - In the Ancient Roman language, the word sus means above, suspended, not in the Medieval Latin. The word Sus means above and up in Romanian, French, Occitan and Portuguese. 2nd. sus [above] - prendere - suspendere - sus’pension. 3rd - sus [above] - tentare - sustentare - sus’tain. . - Urge - sus - ursus [bear]. The origin of the ancient Latin word urgessus, which means bear, was initiated with the Roman verb urgere. The word ursus [rgessus], which means the one that urges above, is the Roman origin of the name given to the animal that, when walking upright sustained on both of its feet, spontaneously makes an intimidating imposition of its right hand (or right pawn).In the original Hebrew name of the Word that became flesh [Jehav-shua] abides the Tetragram of the name Jehaveh [YHWH/JHVH], and for that, the name of the Lamb was omitted by the High Priest who would in no way pronounce the name when referring to a condemned one. The letters of the Tetragram could not be brought up once again by having the name Jehav-shua written on the plaque of whom was said to be an accursed one.According to the High Priest, who would have to minister and apply the Law once given to the children of Ishrael, the blasphemy of one taking the eternal name in vain would remain when writing the Kadhish [Holiness] of the Tetragram on the plaque of one who was deemed to be an accursed one. The Law of the Sanhedrin indicted the Lamb and the death penalty was based in His pronunciation of the name that remains eternally, while saying I AM [YHWH/JHVH], referring to the Spirit within the flesh [the living Word that became flesh] as the Kodhesh [Holy One] of Ishrael.While writing the word(s) I.e.sus, Pilate did not lie nor write a name, not even a false name to the Lamb, because his wife sent to him saying: Have thou nothing to do with that just man; for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him. - The origin of the word(s) I.e.sus on the plaque that Pilate wrote is founded in words that are true and legitimate: Id Est Suspended. The word(s) I.e.sus did not have an origin as a name whether in the Roman or Greek language.

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..greek translation of the Hebrew name...
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Did the apostles call the Word become flesh by a Hebrew name which means I AM IS THE SALVATION (because the One that sent the Lamb saves His people from their sins),or did they call the LAMB by the word jesus which is the modern version for the old version IESVS that belongs to the spiritual ministry of the Roman church?1st. - the word 'jesus' isn't the Hebrew name that was pronounced by the apostles.2nd. - the word 'jesus' isn't a translation of the Hebrew name that was pronounced by the apostles. It isn't even a translation of what it could supposedly mean in Hebrew.3rd. - the word jesus is a modern version from the ancient form Iesus Kristus.4th. - the word Iesus isn't from the Greek, because it is the same word that had been consecrated by the eight nation --The State of Vatican, because the word Iesu/Iesus had always been an essential part in the foundation of the Catholicism and of the Roman church from the beginning of the centuries.5th. - Iesu/Iesus stands for a man's name that has been viewed in the place of YHWH's name.6th. - there are three sequential sixes in the words IESVS KRISTVS, and tree sixes more from the Hebrew numeric value of the letters SVS which means horse in Hebrew?7th. - All the encyclopaedias and biblical dictionaries have been attesting the same real fact: That the Word become flesh and Joshua had the same Hebrew name,and why the scribes and priests of the doctrines of faiths of the earth could not restore the transliteration that gives priority not to the Greek letters but to the actual pronunciation [audible and speakable] of the Hebrew name??I. because of laziness, inactivity.
II. because they want to keep on paying reverence (spiritually bowing) before the doctrinal image that imposed the same written form jesus upon the nations, as if the transliteration itself or an imposed version was the unchangeable eternal Hebrew.The name or the number identifies to which spiritual ministry does it originally and spiritually belong to. If not to the Lamb, to the scarlet beast (obscure doctrine) upon which sits the holy Mother city.III. because of the three reasons for substitution that are listed in the beginning of this post.

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that is done in the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit
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Vattesimu(battésimu) or Roman Vaticyniu(vaticination)
are rituals originally created and consecrated in the name/authority of the Roman church. There is no mention of the word baptismu in the Law of the Testimony.Every ritual of vattesimu (or doctrinal image of baptismu) had been originally done in the name of the Roman cross,because according to the Law of the Testimony and of the Prophets,the pronunciation or calling upon of the name that remains eternally could only have been done if in fact the name of the Most High or of the Word that became flesh was mentioned and not omitted.It is attested in the books of the ancients:
I AM THAT I AM
I AM the same
I AM the First - The Begetter
I AM also the Last - The Begotten

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is done in the name of the Father, of the Son...
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There never was the eternal name being called upon or mentioned
unless by the name of the Word that was in the beginning,
the original Hebrew name that translates 'I AM IS THE SALVATION'. About the segnale --scar-- of the nominis of the beast,In the time that the stigmata ”scar is made, --on the forehead, using the right hand--,
a ”name is pronounced
and that name is the ”beast's.And the words of the beast's nominis are: in [the place of] the name of the father, and of the son and of the Holy Spirit,and the words of the ministry and ordination of the beast's ”stigmata scar are: 'I receive this ”stigmata of roman cross --on my forehead, using the right hand-- in the place of the name [I AM--YHWH] of the begetter and in the place of the name [I AM--YHWH] of the begotten and in the place of the Spirit of --Kadhish-- Holiness.' Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : updates

MSN | Outlook, Office, Skype, Bing, Breaking News, and Latest Videoshttp://www.americanvision.org/articlearchive/06-06-06.asphttp://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/666.htmNumber of the Beast - WikipediaHebrew Alphabet - Judaism 101 (JewFAQ) Ahh, Here it is, this is what I was looking for. Since I can't copy and past it in this forum I'll just give you the rundown and you can check it out for yourself. Your idea is interesting, to say the least, but it just doesn't fly. The four sites listed above this one catagorize the 'numerous' attempt to determine who the beast i.e. (666) is, and the falacies of trying to do so. More to the point the book of revalations chapter 13 verse 18 specifically says 'six hundred and sixty six,' not 3 sequential 6's (or even two sets of 3 sequential six's). Furthermore the numerical value of Vav (typically transladed as W) is six, but tring to say that WWW or Vav-Vav-Vav equates to six hundred and sixty six is tantamont to saying that Three roman numeral 1's (III) is equal to one hundred and eleven. (it's not, thats a roman 3) The most you have done is illustrate that Jesus' name, written the way you write it, comes out to 6+6+6 which equals 18 which is the numerical value of the word Chai which means life. That you can do it twice using the Hebrew letters/numbers means that His name (as you are spelling it) means 'life, after life'. Which is quit interesting, but very thin in referance to, you know, walking on watter, raising the dead, feeding 3000, and then 5000, people on just a couple of fish and a few loaves of bread, and so forth. Interesting but thin.As to what His deciples called Him I am fairly certain they called Him by the name Yeshua, when they used His name, other wise they called Him teacher or rabi, or more to the point Master. Important to note John the baptist called Him the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world."What's in a name, a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet."

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What sign did they make when they spread the blood of the lamb over the door post and lintels?
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1st. The seven. Except in the movies that have been made by the ones who receive the sign of the Roman ”cicatrix on their foreheads.2nd. The sign of the seven, like the sign of the Seven Star or like a Paleo Hebrew seven which is my Avatar: the attraction and immediate impact between the two vertical poles represents the gathering and maximum approach of both hands when one makes the Sign of the lamb.This Ancient Hebrew Seven, which is my Avatar, is like a reversed 7, where the first pole, or short one, became the last, and the last became the first. Seven is the sign-number of Eli-YooN (Most High).The Eternal's Seven is represented by The Seventh Times; Seventh Day; Seven Days Celebration; Seven Weeks, Seventh Month, Seventh Year...The Hebrew sign of the Seven that is made with the blood of the lamb over the door post and lintels; and the Great Shalem-Beth (Complete Rest) of the Hebrews do represent the Passover of the Hebrews.The celebration of the Passover is the Great Sabbath of the Hebrews
The Great Shal-beth (Shabbath) referred to was the great Sabbath of the Passover.
This High Shal-beth --complete rest-- came only once a year, and always came on the fourteenth day of Nisan....

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In the time that there is no omission of the green wood,
these words are listened to,

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For if in the green wood they do these things, what shall be done in the dry?

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There is a completeness in which the green wood is not omitted.
because parable is when something is taken from the literal
in order to illustrate what is going on with regard to the spiritual.

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It is attested by eternal words that a literal green wood, from a green tree, was present there,

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because of the evidence that it wouldn't make sense to utilize the term 'green wood' as a parable --i.e. something taken from the literal in order to illustrate the spiritual--,
if in fact, in the moment that parable was pronounced,
the literal wood was a dry one.

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No disposable Roman crosses

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In the Scriptures as originally written there is no mention of the two robbers carrying their crosses, because the Roman Empire did not have the habit of making disposable crosses.
Whether the dry wood Roman crosses or their dry wood vertical pole,
for the two robbers, were already waiting for them.

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And because of the absence of disposable Roman crosses there, the sequential rows of dozens of Roman crosses available that remained upon the hills of Jerrutzshalem and Judah, as a symbol of the Roman empire occupancy,

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now it is clear that all those crosses were now dry wood.
Not heavy nor green but simply dry wood Roman crosses
of which the High Priest did not ask Pilate to include,

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because a different Law required a distinct and immediate wood
especially if it is the Law of the Testimony that requires complete Kadhish--Holiness.Whether disposable or fixed, the dry wood Roman cross that Pilate offered for free in one of his propositions, all in all it was just another of his intents in order to persuade the cheaf priests to abandon their request, saying:'I authorize you to take him yourselves [with your own hands] and nail him to a cross',but in return the message Pilate heard echoed around: 'not interested.'We have a Law and he shall die according to our law,
because he make himself the Kodhesh--Holy One-- of Israel.
--book of John paraphrased--.

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Pilate and the LAMB

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- Are you the king of Israel?
- ”King’ as you use the word, or as it is said in Israel?
- Am I an Israeli? For what reason do the chief priests come to ask me to help them kill one of their own people? What have you done?
- My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, the Israelis would certainly strive that I should not be delivered to the Roman soldiers: but now my kingdom is not from here.
- Are you a king then?
- You say that I’m a king. I have been born to be ANOINTED of the Truth, and for this reason I have come into the world, that I should testify on behalf of the Truth. Everyone who is of the Truth listens to my voice.
- What Truth?

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bestiae obscurae impositione - ...would fight that I wouldn’t be delivered to the Israelis.

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Pilate and the High Priest

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- I find no basis for a charge against him. But you have a custom, that I should release someone to you at the Passover. Therefore do you want me to release to you the king of Israel?
- Not this man, but Barabbas!
- Behold, I bring him out to you, that you may know that I find no basis for a charge against him. Behold, the man!
- Suspend him on a tree! Suspend him on a tree!
- Do you want me to suspend the king of Israel? I do authorize you to take him and nail him to a cross yourselves [with your own hands], for I find no basis for a charge against him.
- We have a Law and he ought die by our Law, because he made himself the Kodhesh--Holy One of Israel.

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bestiae obscurae impositione - Crucify him, crucify him!.
Eclipsed - If the Israelis actually shouted the words crucify him, rather than suspend him to a tree, then Pilate’s response saying ”Take him yourselves and crucify him’ would have pleased them. Pilate’s answer not only made them angry but also caused the High Priest to bring up the Law.

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bestiae obscurae impositione - We have a law, and according to our law he ought to die, ...
Eclipsed - If it was just a question of having the lamb dead no matter how it was done, then the High Priest would not have brought up the Law in opposition to the form of death that Pilate had proposed.

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The statement 'take him yourselves and crucify him' gives the understanding that Pilate proposed the cross in order to force them to give in. For no man would ever say 'I find no basis for a charge against him' and then do the complete opposite by proposing death against the same one who he considers innocent. Their rejection to the words 'take him yourselves and crucify him' makes it clear, once and for all, that crucifixion is not part of the Hebrew Law. If the High Priest was looking for the LAMB to die on a Roman cross, then Pilate's words would have fulfilled the will of the Sanhedrin and no demand from the Law would have been brought up.

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”We have a Law and he ought die by our Law, because he made himself the Kodhesh--Holy One of Israel’. - In the immediate moment that Pilate heard the High Priest’s statement about the Law he feared even more.

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- Where are you from? - Are you not speaking to me? - Don’t you know that I have power to kill you and power to force them to release you?
- You have no power at all against me, unless it had been given you from above, and the power that you have is reserved to the will of the ones that seek my death, for their sins are greater than yours.

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Pilate would get involved by either releasing the LAMB or not commanding the centurion to suspend the Sanhedrin’s prisoner to a green wood.

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In both cases he would have acted against the High Priest and would end up doing the opposite of what his wife sent to him, saying: 'Have thou nothing to do with that just man'.

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Pilate did not get involved because he did what the High Priest asked him to: He ordered the centurion to do the will of the High Priest. -- ”I wash my hands from this. I'm innocent of the blood of this just man. You see to it'.

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According to the doctrines of the faiths--beliefs of the earth, the Tabernacle of His body would have been supposedly nailed to a Roman cross, or condemned by the Roman laws,

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The point of view of the doctrines of faiths has remained the same: 'the High Priest simply said that the Law demanded the death penalty’; ”he just wanted the LAMB dead and didn't care how’; 'the High Priest would have been satisfied with Pilate’s proposition as soon as he heard the words: go ahead, take him and nail him to a cross yourselves', which means 'do to him the same that I usually do to the enemies of Rome'.

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According to those inclined basis of the doctrines of faiths firm in the sand of a catholic mastercopy of scripture, the High Priest only shared his thoughts about the Law that was given to the children of Ishrael, and it was just an afterthought: ...by the way, we have a Law and it says that he must die by the Law, but it really doesn't matter how it is done;
Just thought you'd like to know that Pilate’.For the nature of the wide door of beliefs, faiths and abominations is, and will always be, to give credit that the ends do justify the means, and to give credit that an Israeli High Priest would act like them.

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After talking to the LAMB and finding no fault in him, Pilate then says to the High Priest ”I find no fault in him. Take him yourselves and crucify him’. From what has been said through the wide doors, wasn’t that what the High Priest was asking for? If it was, then why to bring up the words ”he ought to die by our Law?’. The ones of the wide door, who feed on the belief/faith in the obscured versions usually state that ”the Romans would not change their normal method of execution just because the Hebrew authorities asked them to', but such a statement makes it sound like Pilate did not do the will of the Hebrew authorities, while Scripture clearly states otherwise. Pilate had the power to force them to release their prisoner, which means that it has never been a question of asking Pilate to change the Roman method of execution. It was a question of asking him to order the roman soldiers to do what the Hebrew authorities have been impeded to do themselves: to suspend an accursed one of the Sanhedrin to a tree or wood.

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The Sign of the Lamb is the maximum gathering approach between both hands.

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he that gathers not with me, scattersThe term lamb of Eli-YooN (Eli-JeooN; Most High) also implies the manner that Jehaveh-shua was suspended, like a lamb, both hands gathered and tied with ropes, above the head, to a Hebrew green tree, as it is said: and Aaron and his sons shall put the hands of the lamb upon the head of the lamb.According to the Law as originally written, the hands --or hoofs-- of the lamb, ram, or heifer were actually gathered and tied together above its head to a tree or pole before it can be slaughtered.The offerings of lamb, ram or heifer required total Kadhish--Holiness to I AM--Jehaveh, and they could not be offered without a holy--separate way, that is the placing and tying of the hands of the lamb above the head of the lamb. The Sign of the lamb is the exact opposite of the sign of the beast.The sign of the Roman cicatrix ”stigmata is the maximum distance between both hands

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The doctrine of the seventh day ”Laodicea was raised from the heart of men like what comes up out of a firm land; - I saw another beast coming up out of the land.

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And having two teachings similar to the instruction of the LAMB, the doctrine of Laodicea intends to 1st.sanctify the seventh day while it teaches the 2nd.abstinence from the unclean animals and fish; - and it had two horns similar to a lamb.

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But the manner through which the doctrine of the seventh day ”Laodicea spiritually imposes its teachings is that of spiritual intimidation as if the loss of salvation or fear of death was the reason why one must remain doing the eternal instructions, rather than for loving the Eternal and Celestial above all things, spontaneously and for love only; - and spoke like the dragon.

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The second greatest doctrine [7th day Laodicean] exercises all the power of the first doctrine [first ecclesiastic power], but the second one only has such a power in the time that it is standing to face it in its presence. If the ”pope had sanctified the Sabbath instead of the Sunday, then the second one would be diminished, without enough power to face while standing [protesting] in the presence of the first one. - and it exercises all the power of the first beast in its presence.

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The doctrine of the seventh day ”Laodicea makes the protestants plus the rest of the world fit into the adoration to the first beast [or; in the worshipping of the day that the first doctrine has sanctified], by stating that those who do not sanctify the Sabbath day do automatically fit into the worship to the day that was sanctified by the first doctrine. - and it makes the earth and those dwelling in it, to adore the first beast, whose wound to death by the sword was ”cicatrized.

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There was given to the beast a mouth [radio, microphone and speaker] to speak blasphemies and great things. - And it was given to give spirit [electric current] to an image [e.g. television] for the beast, so that both the mouth and image that was given to the beast may speak, and cause all who do not respect the image of the beast that they may *die [spiritually]. - One disrespects the spiritual image of the beast [spiritually imposed doctrine] whenever he/she presses the remote control to change the channel and, in doing so, gets rid of either the catholic masses or adventist sermons. - * Blessed are the ones who are spiritually dead, who die in the Lamb.

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Jesus was betrayed, captured, and brought before the High priests on the first day of the feast of unleavened bread, the passover feast. Most likly in the year of Jubile, since Pilate mentions, in all four gospels, the custom of releasing a prisoner to the Jews during the time of the feast. Pilate released a murderer, (at their behest) and sacrificed in his place the passover Lamb, the one which God provided, just as he did on the mount of 'Jehovah-jireh' for Abraham, in place of Isaac. Where God said to Abraham, "since you did not withhold your son, your only son, whom you love, from Me, In your Seed all nations will be blessed because you have headed My voice." Paraphrasing a bit; God said to Abraham, because you did not withhold your son from Me, I will not withhold My Son from the world.Lets talk about the Hebrew sign of the seven. Seven in the scripture refers to completeness, perfection, and finality. Im not realy big into numerology but just as a cursory examination: God rested on the seventh day. Israel marched around Jerico seven times, there where seven years of famine in Josephs time, Nebacadneser went insane for seven years. Seven petitions are made in the LORD's prayer, seven loaves fead the multitudes, Jesus spoke from the cross seven times. Isaiah (11) speaks of the seven manifestations of the spirit that would be present in the messiah. The spirit of the LORD will rest upon Him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD. (Matthew 3:16 ; 4:1-11 ; 26:39;42 ; Mark 1:10;13 ; Luke 2:22-35;47-52 ; John 17 ; 18:4-8) The number seven appears 30 times in the book of the revelation of Jesus Christ. Seven lampstands which are the seven churches, seven churches, seven stars which are the messengers to the seven churches, seven angels of the seven churches, seven spirits of God (concerning the Lamb), seven seals; the seventh seal opens the seven trumpets, seven trumpets; the seventh trumpet opens the seven bowls, seven bowls; which is the tribulation lasting seven years, seven angels, seven plagues, seven golden bowls, the Lamb has seven horns (symbolizing complete omnipotence), the Lamb has seven eyes (symbolizing complete omniscience), seven peals of thunder, there are seven thousand people killed in an earth quake, seven thousand more repent and are saved, seven kings, seven mountains, the great red dragon (satan) has seven heads and seven diadums (crowns), etc. etc. etc. One thing seems painfully obvious; that untill the things revieled in the book of revelation come to pass, there can be no completion concerning man, the law, and the prophets.I have tried looking for your green tree theory in the OT and I simply cannot find it, perhaps this once you can give me a chapter and verse or atleast several paragraphs before and after so I can get a general idea of where in the OT you are reading this. Concerning Jesus and parables the two most important things to concider are 1) His audiance (who He is speaking to) and 2) the words being spoken (which are generaly symbolic and concern the current situation or the audiance) Now first and formost lets grab the context: In the book of Judges chapter 16 verses 7 and 8 the word green is used to denote freshness or youth, ergo not dry. Most of the other referances deal with green trees on hills and under green trees on hills, as well as green grasses and herbs, (no mention of green wood); but, there is one interesting passage in the book of Ezekiel (17:24) Again a refeance to the diferance between youth and old age. Another referance in chapter 20 verse 47 again refers to the diferance between youth and old age. I do not read this parable as speaking concerning youth and old age so much as refering to the passage of time. The book of Isaiah clearly states, concerning the messiah, that He would grow up before Him as a tender plant, and as a root out of the dry ground. Jesus is refering to the current situation and epoch versus a situation and epoch that is to come. I.E. If they do this while I am still here what more will they do when I am gone from this place. I'm not real sure what you are trying to say here. First off I'm not catholic. Second, my faith is set firmly upon the Rock, not shifting sands, that is Christ Jesus. Specificaly the rock, which the builders rejected, but which has become the Chief Cornerstone. As to the point that the Jews wanted Jesus dead no matter how He would die, just so long as He did, is a given. His death was Jehovah-jireh, it was providential. It served and fulfilled both prophacy and the purpose for which He came to earth (which He stated more than once), which was to be a sin sacrafice. I do not hold that the Jews killed Jesus, quite the contrary, all the world had a part in killing Jesus, even Pilate, both Jews and gentiles(anyone who is not a Jew). A point you fail to mention, or perhaps over looked, is where the Jewish people said to Pilate; when he said to them,"His blood be upon you.", they said,"His blood be upon us and upon our children." Many take this as a condemnation of the Jewish peoples, but it is in fact part of the sacrificial Laws that the blood of the sacrifice be upon the Jewish people or else it cannot make attonement for their sins(or ours).Your afirmation that Pilate didn't want to have anything to do with Jesus is irelevant. Pilate was involved simply by being there, but more to the point he had quite alot to do with Jesus. Pilate questioned Him, sent Him to Herod, and had Him flogged before He finaly gave in to the will of the mob that was calling for Jesus' death. Pilate could not aford to have another uprising within his jursdiction without having to face Ceasar. Pilate could not release Jesus because if he did the mob of Jewish peoples would riot or revolt against him; niether did he want to put Jesus to death because he could find no fault in Him. In the end he opted to let the mob have its way with Jesus, that peace(as far as he was concerned) would be kept, by signing the order to put Him to death. Perhaps you should read the book of Isaiah again wherein it says of the messiah that; He was pierced for our transgretions, bruised for our iniquities, by His strips we are healed, and it pleased Him to bruise Him, for surely He has borne our sins.You seem to do alot of paraphrasing of the Bible and what it says....another reason we use the chapter and verse method, so that we can referance what you are talking about and grab the context, as well as the exact wording.