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Taz
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Message 151 of 301 (436581)
11-26-2007 4:50 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by Dr Adequate
11-26-2007 1:18 AM


Dr A writes:
"Mark's violet eyes make Jane sit up nights pining."
How are you at geological periods?
"Cows often sit down carefully, perhaps their joints creak."
It would be easier if so many of them didn't begin with C.
Now that you have been unsuspended, what the flying squirrel are you talking about?

Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

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Message 152 of 301 (436583)
11-26-2007 4:55 PM
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11-26-2007 4:50 PM


That's easy:
"Mark's violet eyes make Jane sit up nights pining."
Mercury Venus Earth Mars Jupiter Saturn Uranus Neptune Pluto
"Cows often sit down carefully, perhaps their joints creak."
Cambrian Ordovician Silurian Devonian Carboniferous Permian Triassic Jurassic Cretaceous

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Message 153 of 301 (436585)
11-26-2007 5:20 PM
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11-26-2007 4:55 PM


Also:
My very earnest mother just served us nine pickles
or,
My Very Educated Mother Just Sent Us Nine Pizzas
Also for the Linnean classification system: Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Genus, Species:
"Kids Pour Catshup Over Green Spiders" (the classic)
"Kindly Purchase Cookies Only from Girl Scouts"
"Kings Play Chess On Fine Grain Sand"

{When you search for God, y}ou can't go to the people who believe already. They've made up their minds and want to convince you of their own personal heresy.
("The Jehovah Contract", AKA "Der Jehova-Vertrag", by Viktor Koman, 1984)
And we who listen to the stars, or walk the dusty grade,
Or break the very atoms down to see how they are made,
Or study cells, or living things, seek truth with open hand.
The profoundest act of worship is to try to understand.
Deep in flower and in flesh, in star and soil and seed,
The truth has left its living word for anyone to read.
So turn and look where best you think the story is unfurled.
Humans wrote the Bible; God wrote the world.

(filk song "Word of God" by Dr. Catherine Faber, No webpage found at provided URL: http://www.echoschildren.org/CDlyrics/WORDGOD.HTML)

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Taz
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Message 154 of 301 (436586)
11-26-2007 5:21 PM
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11-26-2007 4:55 PM


OMG, that's clever!

Owing to the deficiency of the English language, I have occasionally used the academic jargon generator to produce phrases that even I don't fully understand. The jargons are not meant to offend anyone or to insult anyone's intelligence!

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FliesOnly
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Message 155 of 301 (436713)
11-27-2007 10:14 AM
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11-26-2007 5:20 PM


dwise1 writes:
Also for the Linnean classification system: Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Genus, Species:
You forgot Family .
King Philip Came Over For Good Sex. (My favorite)

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Message 156 of 301 (436729)
11-27-2007 11:40 AM
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11-27-2007 10:14 AM


Thanks for the correction. I had gotten it from somebody else and had missed that.
There's a WikiQuotes page on English Mnemonics at English mnemonics - Wikiquote.

{When you search for God, y}ou can't go to the people who believe already. They've made up their minds and want to convince you of their own personal heresy.
("The Jehovah Contract", AKA "Der Jehova-Vertrag", by Viktor Koman, 1984)
And we who listen to the stars, or walk the dusty grade,
Or break the very atoms down to see how they are made,
Or study cells, or living things, seek truth with open hand.
The profoundest act of worship is to try to understand.
Deep in flower and in flesh, in star and soil and seed,
The truth has left its living word for anyone to read.
So turn and look where best you think the story is unfurled.
Humans wrote the Bible; God wrote the world.

(filk song "Word of God" by Dr. Catherine Faber, No webpage found at provided URL: http://www.echoschildren.org/CDlyrics/WORDGOD.HTML)

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bluescat48
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Message 157 of 301 (436736)
11-27-2007 11:55 AM
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11-27-2007 10:14 AM


I stopped using that method after "The Girls can flirt and other queer things can do"
Talc, Gypsum, Calcite, Flourite, Apatite, Orthoclase, Quartz, Topaz, Corundum, Diamond

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Message 158 of 301 (436892)
11-27-2007 10:58 PM
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11-27-2007 11:55 AM


You think that's bad?
All Conservatives Eat Monkey Dung Whilst Hairy Weasels Chew Their Massive Bloated Backsides.
Atlee, Churchill, Eden, Macmillan, Douglas-Home, Wilson, Heath, Wilson, Callaghan, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown.
I'm very, very sorry, no really...

Mutate and Survive

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Message 159 of 301 (436944)
11-28-2007 8:13 AM


Thread Reopened
I'm reopening this thread under the assumption that the closure was intended to be temporary. If that's not the case then the moderator who originally closed it can reclose it, though a note about reasons and intentions at the end would be helpful.

--Percy
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Message 160 of 301 (437012)
11-28-2007 1:46 PM
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11-27-2007 10:14 AM


"Kinky People Can Often Find Good Sex"

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dwise1
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Message 161 of 301 (437023)
11-28-2007 2:38 PM
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11-28-2007 8:13 AM


Re: Thread Reopened
In the glaring absense of any evidence that supports creationism, we got bored and drifted.
I do hope that some creationist will present some actual evidence so that we do not stray again.
Hey, Beretta claimed that he has an actual creation model and "voluminous" evidence for it. Gee, why does he refuse to deliver?

{When you search for God, y}ou can't go to the people who believe already. They've made up their minds and want to convince you of their own personal heresy.
("The Jehovah Contract", AKA "Der Jehova-Vertrag", by Viktor Koman, 1984)
Humans wrote the Bible; God wrote the world.
(from filk song "Word of God" by Dr. Catherine Faber, No webpage found at provided URL: http://www.echoschildren.org/CDlyrics/WORDGOD.HTML)
Of course, if Dr. Mortimer's surmise should be correct and we are dealing with forces outside the ordinary laws of Nature, there is an end of our investigation. But we are bound to exhaust all other hypotheses before falling back upon this one.
(Sherlock Holmes in The Hound of the Baskervilles)
Gentry's case depends upon his halos remaining a mystery. Once a naturalistic explanation is discovered, his claim of a supernatural origin is washed up. So he will not give aid or support to suggestions that might resolve the mystery. Science works toward an increase in knowledge; creationism depends upon a lack of it. Science promotes the open-ended search; creationism supports giving up and looking no further. It is clear which method Gentry advocates.
("Gentry's Tiny Mystery -- Unsupported by Geology" by J. Richard Wakefield, Creation/Evolution Issue XXII, Winter 1987-1988, pp 31-32)

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Message 162 of 301 (442260)
12-20-2007 4:56 PM
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11-28-2007 2:38 PM


Re: Thread Reopened
quote:
In the glaring absense of any evidence that supports creationism, we got bored and drifted.
I do hope that some creationist will present some actual evidence so that we do not stray again.
I imagine that your reservoir of hope is infinite then. I've never seen a creationist argue that literal creationism is true without attacking evolution. Furthermore, when placed in the context of another religion's origin story creationists either pack up and leave or never even post.

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Message 163 of 301 (442763)
12-22-2007 4:03 PM
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11-22-2007 3:39 PM


Now that's not true. If when the big bang happened, all matter was going in a linear path, why would they start spinning? If I shot a gun in space, I'm pretty sure the bullet would go on and on strait without spinning until it hit some matter. Because the big bang supposedly sent all the matter, then there would be no matter for that matter to hit, if you catch my drift. But, we obviously have spinning galaxies, spinning stars, spinning solar systems, spinning planets, spinning moons, spinning asteroids. Everything in the universe is spinning. So, by your own arguments of 'when the kids get thrown off, they don't spin in the direction of the merry-go-round', you contradict your own theories and provide a base for a God-created universe.

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Message 164 of 301 (442765)
12-22-2007 4:06 PM
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11-22-2007 3:49 PM


But don't evolutionists do the same thing?
Quote:
Creationism is the "explanation" you arrive at when start with creationism, because you want to believe in it, and then you simply ignore everything that might contradict you.

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Message 165 of 301 (442768)
12-22-2007 4:12 PM
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12-22-2007 4:03 PM


Hint: Anything that you know about physics that's actually true will be known to physicists, who would have noticed if this was a valid critique of the Big Bang. In particular, I'm sure they are all familiar with the second law of motion.
What you mainly seem to have omitted is gravity.
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

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