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Author Topic:   Why is Faith so Important to God?
The Agnostic
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Message 75 of 88 (442708)
12-22-2007 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by truthlover
12-08-2007 11:14 AM


I couldn't agree more with the OP! My thoughts exactly.
Why on earth does God value faith in Him above everything else? Why does God not reward good people, generous people, loving people, honest people, and so on?
Why is it faith, that decides whether you get to see heaven or hell?
I think this is highly suspicious, because it is exactly what you would excpect to be the case if somebody "made up" christianity and wanted it to spread.
Religions that don't emphasize faith and conversion of others do not survive and go extinct much like animals go extinct.
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The reason why "faith in God" would be considered important is that "faith in God" is the means supplied by God to man whereby a man is saved. Seeing as there is no other means whereby a man can be saved it seems sensible that the only way be emphasised. Note that "faith in God" is given as a gift from God to man - God doesn't expect a man to believe without his supplying the means whereby the man can do so. God supplies the evidence > man believes.
That is circular reasoning.
You say: God emphasizes faith, because faith is needed to be saved from hell.
The question is: WHY is faith needed to be saved from hell? Why not send the murderers, child molesters and warmongers to hell in stead?
Why not base Judgement on how friendly, loving and kind people are, rather than judging them by their ability to believe things without evidence?

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The Agnostic
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From: Netherlands
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Message 80 of 88 (442946)
12-23-2007 7:23 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by jar
12-22-2007 3:42 PM


Re: Learning how it works.
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Actually, if you read the thread I think you will find I have commented on the topic beginning with Faith is not important to God (Message 3).
I don't think that quite answers the question. The question was: Why does God choose faith to judge people, rather than judging them on how good, kind or loving they are?

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The Agnostic
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Message 84 of 88 (443013)
12-23-2007 1:00 PM
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12-23-2007 12:34 PM


Re: Learning how it works.
Actually I have addressed that as well many times here at EvC. You will be judged on your behavior not on your faith. Faith is just for us, it is something we use. See Thread Who can be saved? A Christian perspective for my position on that.
That thread answered my question. Thanks!

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