Global Futurism. A discussion of impending issues

To quote myself from the another thread, present day species extinction rates haven't been demonstrated. In the 1970s, Norman Meyers predicted a million species would be extinct by the year 2000. Paul Ehrlich predicted that fifty percent of all species would be extinct by the year 2000. But those were just opinions. --Discussion in Lomborg p. 252Opinion in the absence of evidence is prejudice. Do you know how many species are on the planet? No? Neither does anybody else. Estimates range from 3 million to 100 million. Quite a range. So its pretty hard to determine how many species become extinct if you don't know how many there are in the first place. How could you tell if you were robbed if you didn't know how much money you had in your pocket to begin with? There is no known rate of species extinction. Oh yes, obviously truthful. /sarcasm off This one I do believe because I can see historical data that indicates the population curve will hit around this mark.It is interesting to note that the world hit the 6 billion mark around 2000. We hit 5 billion around 1987, 4 billion around 1975, 3 billion around 1960, 2 billion around 1920, 1 billion about 1820, and at the year 0 (when Christ was born) there were about 200 million people on earth.Source World population - WikipediaAnd here's a graph: I love the way it happens to flatten out starting 6,000 years ago to "prehistoric" times. This statement is presuming that man made global warming is proven, which it has not been despite what Gore says. But that is another thread altogether.As a bible believing christian, I see the future happening just the way the bible says it will happen. During the Great Tribulation after the 3 and half years of peace between Israel and Antichrist, you'll have the 7 seals:1 - Rider on White Horse
2 - War
3 - Famine
4 - DeathThose are the so called 4 horseman of the apocalypse. These are pretty vague and it could be argued that they are happening now. The 5th Seal is the martyrs crying out for vengence. But at the 6th Seal it gets interesting.6 - Terror Global earthquake. Woot. This one should be pretty obvious when it happens.Next comes 4 angels that hold back ALL the wind on the earth.Then we kick off with the Trumpets:1 - Revelations 6:7 The first sounded, and there came hail and fire, mixed with blood, and they were thrown to the earth; and a third of the earth was burned up, and a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.1/3 of the vegetation on earth burned up. I'm sure this would make news.2 - Revelations 6:8The second angel sounded, and something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea; and a third of the sea became blood, 9and a third of the creatures which were in the sea and had life, died; and a third of the ships were destroyed.Alrighty. Something like a mountain in the sea...1/3 of sea creatures and 1/3 of all ships destroyed. That should make spectacular headlines as well.3 - Revelations 6:10The third angel sounded, and a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of waters. 11The name of the star is called Wormwood; and a third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the waters, because they were made bitter.1/3 of the drinking water turned bad.4 - Revelations 6:12The fourth angel sounded, and a third of the sun and a third of the moon and a third of the stars were struck, so that a third of them would be darkened and the day would not shine for athird of it, and the night in the same way.1/3 of illumation gone. That won't make sun bathers happy.And now for one of my favorites, the 5th trumpet - Bottomless Pit Huge, armored, flying, banshee looking things with scorpion tails that will only strike at men (but not christains), causing pain for 5 months.Trumpet 6, Army from the East. The 4 angels from the river Euphrates will kill 1/3 of men. So if there are 6 billion people alive at this time, there will be 2 billion killed. I'm sure that might make the morning news. There's a nice description of them if you'd like to read, but being spiritual beings I don't think you'll be able to see them anyway.Trumpet 7 is Christ's reign forseen. Not much to do with the nightly news as far as I can tell.Then we come to the bowls:Bowl 1 - Boils upon those with the mark of the beast
Bowl 2 - Sea becomes blood, everything in the sea dies
Bowl 3 - Rivers and Springs become blood
Bowl 4 - Sun scorches men.
Bowl 5 - Pain
Bowl 6 - Euphrates River dries up
Bowl 7 - Greatest Earthquake of all time, causing all islands and mountains to disappear.Now you might be able to rationalize the 4 horsemen as already being here. You could even chalk up some of the trumpets to global warming if you still wanted to have blinders. But after that it is going to be apparent that God is giving you what you've always wanted: signs that He is God.All this stuff will happen so that you can see that this is the coming of the final battle between God and Satan. At some point it will become obvious and you will have to chose a side. You can call me crazy for believing in all of this and that is fine. But in the end, Christ will come back and set up His 1,000 year reign. The earth will be restored to the way it was in the garden of Eden. The earth is presently in trouble. It is following the 2d law of thermodynamics, just as it always has been. It is correct that something must be done soon or humans won't be able to survive on the earth in the next few hundred years (EMF decay). It is pretty vain for us to think as humans that we can control a part of the environment, much less the whole thing. The earth is in trouble, but there's only one person who can do anything about it, and He will soon enough. But you should know that there is another fundamentalist view of the end of the world:President Ahmadinejad's (President of Iran) final comments in a speech at the UN General Assembly: Anyone want to guess who he is talking about? Edited by Tal, : Add some commentsEdited by Tal, : No reason given.Edited by Tal, : grammer

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We never seem to acknowledge that we have been wrong in the past, and so might be wrong in the future. Instead, each generation writes off earlier errors as the result of bad thinking by less able minds-and then confidently embarks on fresh errors of its own. --Michael Crichton

Good come back. I cited references. Where are yours?

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We never seem to acknowledge that we have been wrong in the past, and so might be wrong in the future. Instead, each generation writes off earlier errors as the result of bad thinking by less able minds-and then confidently embarks on fresh errors of its own. --Michael Crichton

Well yes, but the rest are going to be blatantly obvious. Huge, armored, flying, banshee looking horse things with scorpion tails won't be easy to miss or misinterpret."Yep Fred, there goes those newly evolved flying horse stinger dudes. I think they mutated because of global warming."

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We never seem to acknowledge that we have been wrong in the past, and so might be wrong in the future. Instead, each generation writes off earlier errors as the result of bad thinking by less able minds-and then confidently embarks on fresh errors of its own. --Michael Crichton

On 31 Dec, 1972 DDT was banned in the United States. DDT was the best agent against mosquitoes. Since the ban, 2 million people a year have died unnecessarily from malaria, mostly children. The ban has caused more than 50,000,000 needless deaths. Banning DDT killed more people that Hitler and the environmental movement pushed hard for it. They said it was carcinogenic, but it wasn't and everyone knew it at the time of the ban. Environmentalists argued that it was unsafe, but it was so safe you could eat it. In fact, people did just that for 2 years in 1 experiment. After the ban, it was replaced by parathion, which is really unsafe. More than 100 farm workers died in the months after the DDT ban, because they were unaccostumed to handling really toxic pesticides. And while DDT was never banned in other countries, they were told if they continued to use it, their foreign aid would be cut off. But the unarguable point, based on UN stastics, is that before the DDT ban, malaria had become almost a minor illness with about 50,000 deaths world wide. A few years later it was once again a global scourge.50,000,000 people have died since then. It is arguably the greatest tragedy of the 20th Century.I HAVE discussed why Environmentalists are a threat and I suggest we figure out ways to keep them from being in positions of authority.Edited by Tal, : No reason given.

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We never seem to acknowledge that we have been wrong in the past, and so might be wrong in the future. Instead, each generation writes off earlier errors as the result of bad thinking by less able minds-and then confidently embarks on fresh errors of its own. --Michael Crichton

Not quite accurate. Israel neither confirms nor denies that it has nuclear weapons as its official stance, but everyone knows that they do. It is the biggest deterrent that they have against their neighbors that have shown a willingness to attack Israel from all sides, at any time, in order to wipe the nation out.

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We never seem to acknowledge that we have been wrong in the past, and so might be wrong in the future. Instead, each generation writes off earlier errors as the result of bad thinking by less able minds-and then confidently embarks on fresh errors of its own. --Michael Crichton