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sidelined Member (Idle past 5928 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
Tal
Those are the so called 4 horseman of the apocalypse. These are pretty vague and it could be argued that they are happening now. Well vagueness is what prophecies are good at. Edited by sidelined, : No reason given.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5928 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
Tal
Well yes, but the rest are going to be blatantly obvious. Huge, armored, flying, banshee looking horse things with scorpion tails won't be easy to miss or misinterpret. But that says nothing about the validity of the claim to prophecy. Perhaps you would be so good as to point out an item of warfare that is huge,armoured,flying,banshee looking{ever seen a banshee?} with scorpion tales{nasty} whose primary capability is to simply cause pain for 5 months? That sounds like weaponry developed by a liberal.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5928 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
tesla
most end time beleivers beleive that preperation for the end time means prayer and self improvment. Ah., nothing like the constant insistence on an inevitability to make for a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5928 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
tesla
as long as you focus on their insistance and ignore the storm about to smack humanity, we as a human race will only prove them right. The storm is not about to smack humanity,Humanity is the storm.
i dont beleive the religeos should abandon their religeons in order to be helpful in the correction of mankinds mistakes. as long as the religeon does not condone attempting to destroy the planet in response to its inevitable demise. We are ,each of us, the trouble that this planet faces. However, when we have a cultural mindset wherein religious doctrine views us as in dominion over nature and all that is in it rather than as caretakers then we shall not deal with the matters at hand.If the people of the world live with the conviction that the world is ending and that this is a good thing, pray tell, how much effort do you belive will be made to halt the damage being carried out?
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5928 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
tesla
religeous or not, when an army is standing at a countries border, the country reacts. even as we now foresee the impending global climate changes that are affecting the planet , we must act. Yes we must act. It is the case that even though there is no certainty of the full mechanisms of climate change we do know that human activity has its role and since this is the only part we can actually do something about then we must.That is the simple outlook though. Since our economies and therefore our standards of living are ties into the engines of industry that pollute{cars airplanes clothing hot water} which ones are we willing as a people to do without or modify? a man who prays and teaches others to pray and self improve, is not as dangerous as teaching humanity to give up on their God or Gods Prayer has no effect. In fact prayer is structured so that it never can fail. If it works it was God's will and if it does not it was not God's will. What,therefore is the point of praying since it is a given that God's will be done regardless? A people that give up on their God's is a people that then face the facts that their actions are what makes or breaks the survival of their society and must thereby focus their future actions on maintaining a planet within limits that the planet itself imposes."Reality must take precedence over public relations for Nature cannot be fooled." a man without hope is dangerous. a people without hope is catestrophic. Bullshit. A man without Gods is not a man without hope. That said, hope is only a focus to aim our efforts towards and not a gaurantee of reaching the goal.Perhaps it is time people give up on hope and concentrate on forging by dint of effort the way we would like our world to operate. But that operation must be bound up in what is sustainable by physical limits that are in nature. To do otherwise is to ensure eventual demise.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5928 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
tesla
the fuel would work in the same form as the mined (biodeisel) but stem from agriculter not from mining industeries. the change can be made, and if well planned the only economic devastation would be to the mining and oil industeries. And what do we do with the pollutants from the burning of biodeisel? For that matter do you believe you can produce enough biodeisel to replace what we are already doing with oil? How do we replace the solvents, fertilizers, pesticides, and plastics that require petroleum? I am not saying we cannot do so. The matter at hand is how much are we willing to pay to do so?
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5928 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
tesla
what we mine and add to our atmosphere is added carbons outside of the geological cycle, where biodeisel comeing from plants would only be a recycling of current carbons. Wrong again.The breakdown products Carbon Monoxide ,Sulphates and Sulphur Oxides are not recycled into plant life. In fact the acid rain we have to deal with is increased by this activity.This is simply trading one problem for another. This is not to say we should not but what are the consequences of these actions and how do we deal with them and how much does this cost us? We must put limits on human growth in order to curb the demand for these products. Most especially with the 2 most populous nations on earth now working into becoming the greatest consumers of these products. Edited by sidelined, : No reason given.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5928 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
jar
Now if we could get the US to put large sums into producing fusion energy then providing it can be done the problems are pretty much taken care of. With enough generating capacity we would be able to convert most of our power requirement in vehicles to electrical and use the fossil fuels and alternates for aircraft and other such items. In fact I believe air travel is probably the first technology that will get the boot down the road as fossil fuels get scarce. Unless a way can be found to use electrical generation for thrust.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5928 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
tesla
I think another area that could do with funding is the use of biological structures to replace plastics and to use biochemistry on pollutants to break them down into useful items and thereby reduce their toxicity in the environment.
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