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Author Topic:   Discussing the evidence that support creationism
Dr Adequate
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Message 208 of 301 (443084)
12-23-2007 6:11 PM
Reply to: Message 207 by Buzsaw
12-23-2007 5:58 PM


Re: Evolutionism Definition
For all practical purposes, why not?
As I pointed out, you can substitute those definitions of evolutionism (nor, indeed, the word "evolutionism" for the word "evolution") with any reasonable expectation of getting a sensible sentence out of it.
You're being nitty picky for the sake of argument. If Dwise's contention was valid journalists should have the same problem with the term journalism. What's the difference?
They would certainly have a problem if you used the word "journalism" to mean "journal".
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Consider these pairs of sentences, and see which ones are English.
* Evolution has been occurring for billions of years.
* Evolutionism has been occurring for billions of years.
* Darwin came up with an explanation for evolution.
* Darwin came up with an explanation for evolutionism.
* Evolution happens in accordance with Darwin's theory.
* Evolutionism happens in accordance with Darwin's theory.
They are not synonyms.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 237 of 301 (443649)
12-26-2007 9:05 AM
Reply to: Message 224 by Buzsaw
12-25-2007 10:05 AM


Re: Human Population Factor
Starting with one "couple" just 41,000 years ago would give us a total population of 2 x 1089.
You mean 2 x 10^89. 2 x 1089 would be 2178.
The universe does not have space to hold so many bodies.
One of my favorite creationist arguments.
It just debunks itself.
Obviously there are limiting factors preventing the population of the Earth from taking up more space than the entire universe. We'd run out of food, water, places to stand ...
It's patently idiotic. What it actually proves is that the creationist assumption of a constant rate of exponential growth must be false; as, of course, we know to be the case.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 265 of 301 (443765)
12-26-2007 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 263 by Cold Foreign Object
12-26-2007 5:18 PM


Re: Creationism: overwhelming support
Creationism is supported by:
1. Observation of design seen abundantly in reality. Logically, the same corresponds to invisible Designer.
Ooh, are we playing petitio principii again?
My turn.
Evolution is supported by:
1. Observation of adaptation seen abundantly in reality. Logically, the same corresponds to evolution.
2. Cambrian explosion: we could not ask or dream of better evidence corroborating Genesis special creation.
The evolution of creatures with hard parts over a period of 35 million years is the best evidence for Genesis you can dream of?
Suit yourself.
I can dream of better evidence for Genesis, such as anything at all that was actually evidence for Genesis in any way.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 270 of 301 (443812)
12-26-2007 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 267 by Cold Foreign Object
12-26-2007 6:05 PM


Re: Still NO support for Biblical Creationism
But let me say this: if resources are as you say then how do you explain the nature we see today ...
That it is sufficient, with our modern methods, to support about six billion people, some of them on the brink of starvation.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 277 of 301 (443895)
12-27-2007 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 271 by Buzsaw
12-26-2007 10:34 PM


Re: Still NO support for Biblical Creationism
Likely if you count out the flood the planet could have sustained a much larger population 10 or 12 thousand years ago than a few million ...
Why do you think this "likely"?
At that point they'd only just invented agriculture. There is no way that their way of life could have supported our modern billions.
This is perhaps the duffest argument in the creationist arsenal. Or a close second to "Why are there still monkeys?" Give it a rest.

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