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Author Topic:   A Logical account of creation
Dr Adequate
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Message 17 of 173 (391576)
03-26-2007 9:12 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by platypus
01-11-2007 6:59 PM


Well, I think intermediate forms are going to mess up any attempt to divide things into "kinds". Consider the fish-amphibian sequence. At some point you're going to have to draw a dividing line between fish and amphibians, let's say for example somewhere between Tiktaalik and Acanthostega, and announce that one is the "fish kind" and the other is the "amphibian kind". But the problem is that Tiktaalik has more in common with Acanthostega then it does with, say, a goldfish, and Acanthostega has more in common with Tiktaalik than it does with, say, a frog.
This is one reason why creationists never produce a morphological criterion for when two creatures are the same "kind".

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Dr Adequate
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Message 46 of 173 (444040)
12-27-2007 10:38 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Jason777
12-27-2007 9:17 PM


The only logical account for creation is science itself that people try to use to debunk creation.The big bang is a big dud already because if you realy think matter,time,and space could have came into existence from nonexistence then you beleive more things that arent true than anyone on earth.
But Jesus said that with God anything is possible. That would include matter, time, and space coming into existence from nonexistence. God could have done it by magic.
Are you trying to say that Jesus is a liar? That God doesn't exist?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 54 of 173 (510108)
05-27-2009 4:50 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by traste
05-27-2009 1:20 AM


Re: RE;You are wrong
Dou you have any fossil evidences that show parts of fish(internal or external) gradualy developed into parts of amphibians (internal or external)?
Obviously.
Duh.
I mentioned a couple of them in the post that you are pretending to reply to.
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Message 93 of 173 (520249)
08-20-2009 6:27 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by traste
08-20-2009 12:20 AM


Re: you are ignorant
No! It doesnt,given that he said natural selection explain the "survival not the arrival of the fittest". Therefore he is inconflict with his self.
You are lying: in that respect he is in agreement with himself and every other biologist in the world.
That process is not really good, infact astronomer Carl Sagan once said mutation is "lethal".
You are lying. This is why you cannot quote him saying any such thing.
Are mutations producing anything new? The famous experiment on fruitfly drosophila melanogaster did not produce anything new
You are lying, as anyone familiar with the thousands of experiments on fruit flies will be well aware.
In fact modern research show that they have no significant effect on the creature only on their owners.
You are lying. This is why you cannot cite this imaginary "modern research".
Does mutation reveals it trick to you and not to others(i.e. Dean Kenyon,who said that biochemical evolution was undocumented).
The lies of the notorious creationist fraud Dean Kenyon do not constitute evidence.
Actually Im, not surprise that you reasct in this manner, this the way proponents of evolution behave whenever they encounter any scientifc laws that are inconflict with their beliefs. The law of recurrent is not a "so- called law" it well established that organism has real boundaries and they canot go beyond that boundaries.
You are lying. This is why you can produce no evidence for these imaginary boundaries.
Some science professor are saying that fish is indeed a family.
You are lying. This is why you cannot quote any science professor saying any such thing.
If intellectual men will list the history of fraud science evolution will be on the top.
... says the habitual liar.
Let's hear from some actual intellectual men.
Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 100 of 173 (521328)
08-27-2009 2:02 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by traste
08-27-2009 12:42 AM


Re: ALL of your replies are nothing but utterance of ignorance
Im sorry guys I cannot reply all your lies,Iam very busy with my mathemathical research, and I think is just a waste of time to deal with liars, but I'll be back.
Unlike you, I have a PhD in math. Please feel free to ask me if you need any help with your "mathemathical research"
I think that you actually meant "mathematical", but I guess that your "research" into this subject hasn't led you so far as to teach you what the subject is actually called. Let me give you a hint. It isn't called "mathemathics".
And if you'd like me to explain to you what the word "liar" means, which you also seem to be confused about, I can tell you that too. English is one of the languages that I can speak. Perhaps it would take me a long time to get the concept into your head, but basically "liar" means someone who says things that are untrue. There are subtleties and refinements to the definition, which I shall be happy to explain to you, but only once I have established that you recognize that there is, in principle, a difference between truth and falsehood.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 114 of 173 (533567)
11-01-2009 4:56 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by traste
11-01-2009 4:34 AM


Re: Scientific laws
What I know is scientific method. It begins with observation,gather data and formulate a hypthosis and test the hyphothesis againts those data over and over again, it the hyphthesis doesnt suit it should be abandoned. Since today we observed only that living things came only fron living things that only shows that the law of biogenesis is really a law.
Since we know that at one time there were no living things, and since we know that there are living things now, we know that the "law of biogenesis" is not really a law.

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