Dangerous pro-choice extremists?

The Weathermen, The Black Panthers, Che Guevara, Red Army Faction, Earth Liberation Front, Animal Liberation Front, Symbionese Liberation Army, FARC, Black Liberation Army, FALN etc, etc, which is not inclusive to proletariats under the heel of leftwing oppression.Like I said, both sides have nutjobs. That is an indisputable FACT. To even suggest that there isn't is dishonest in an unfathomable way.

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“First dentistry was painless, then bicycles were chainless, and carriages were horseless, and many laws enforceless. Next cookery was fireless, telegraphy was wireless, cigars were nicotineless, and coffee caffeineless. Soon oranges were seedless, the putting green was weedless, the college boy was hatless, the proper diet -- fatless. New motor roads are dustless, the latest steel is rustless, our tennis courts are sodless, our new religion -- Godless” -Arthur Guiterman

No, since Nazi's are rightwing.

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“First dentistry was painless, then bicycles were chainless, and carriages were horseless, and many laws enforceless. Next cookery was fireless, telegraphy was wireless, cigars were nicotineless, and coffee caffeineless. Soon oranges were seedless, the putting green was weedless, the college boy was hatless, the proper diet -- fatless. New motor roads are dustless, the latest steel is rustless, our tennis courts are sodless, our new religion -- Godless” -Arthur Guiterman

I'm sure stranger things have happened...

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“First dentistry was painless, then bicycles were chainless, and carriages were horseless, and many laws enforceless. Next cookery was fireless, telegraphy was wireless, cigars were nicotineless, and coffee caffeineless. Soon oranges were seedless, the putting green was weedless, the college boy was hatless, the proper diet -- fatless. New motor roads are dustless, the latest steel is rustless, our tennis courts are sodless, our new religion -- Godless” -Arthur Guiterman

Then quite a few people are way off topic. Bringing up the Weatherman, Bill O'Reilly, Pat Robertson, the Black Panthers, etc are all OT.Guess we need some moderation in here. Unfortunately, since I am participating, I can't do it.

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“First dentistry was painless, then bicycles were chainless, and carriages were horseless, and many laws enforceless. Next cookery was fireless, telegraphy was wireless, cigars were nicotineless, and coffee caffeineless. Soon oranges were seedless, the putting green was weedless, the college boy was hatless, the proper diet -- fatless. New motor roads are dustless, the latest steel is rustless, our tennis courts are sodless, our new religion -- Godless” -Arthur Guiterman

Thanks for the heads up... I agree with Brenna though, she should change the title to fit the profile.Maybe one of these days we'll get some moderations in here.

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“First dentistry was painless, then bicycles were chainless, and carriages were horseless, and many laws enforceless. Next cookery was fireless, telegraphy was wireless, cigars were nicotineless, and coffee caffeineless. Soon oranges were seedless, the putting green was weedless, the college boy was hatless, the proper diet -- fatless. New motor roads are dustless, the latest steel is rustless, our tennis courts are sodless, our new religion -- Godless” -Arthur Guiterman

Omni, its a well-known fact that ELF and ALF have engaged in eco-terrorism. Why are you arguing over that? Are you such a Leftist that you would blindly try to abet them?Federal Bureau of InvestigationEver heard of Rod Coronado? Look at the charges...You need to just stop at this point, concede this small admission, and move on to greener pastures.http://youtube.com/watch?v=9WwhKN2fIKo&feature=relatedEdited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : Edit to add link

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“First dentistry was painless, then bicycles were chainless, and carriages were horseless, and many laws enforceless. Next cookery was fireless, telegraphy was wireless, cigars were nicotineless, and coffee caffeineless. Soon oranges were seedless, the putting green was weedless, the college boy was hatless, the proper diet -- fatless. New motor roads are dustless, the latest steel is rustless, our tennis courts are sodless, our new religion -- Godless” -Arthur Guiterman

Your initial sentiments were to minimize the actions by the ELF as being little more than kids on a rampage. I have provided several links indicting them on very serious criminal charges -- all of which included them at the #1 terrorist organization within the United States. Of course, that was pre-9/11, but it still shows who and what we are dealing with.I should also add that I don't particularly disagree with their passion. I think there are a lot of labs across the country that still engage in some terrible acts against beautiful animals. I used to work for a research facility that clandestinely worked on animals. I say clandestinely, not because they were torturing animals are anything, but because the "perception" of torturing animals.I even own a cat that was once part of that facility. He was more spoiled at the facility than I can spoil him now. Those animals lived good lives there during their tenure.Anyhow, before I started working there, ALF found out about the facility. They protested, they attacked a few employees, (employees that literally had no idea that an animal facility was in the basement of the building).In any case, I understand and can sympathize with their plight.... To a point. Just like I can sympathize with the plight of PETA.... to a point. But when you start firebombing facilities and attacking people, you have crossed the boundary from being a patriot to being a vigilante.They are no different, in my eyes, than an anti-abortionist, who though has good intentions to save someone less fortunate, completely undermines their efforts by murdering the supposed murderers. Its ancient eye for an eye vigilantism, which will never solve the deeper problem. If your only stipulation was whether or not the knowledge of people inside a facility that was torched is your only contention, then I don't know either. If that's what you have been going around in circles with him over, then I apologize for not picking up on that. Even so, that was not your initial sentiment.You have minimized their actions to being kids gone wild. Because that is what I gleaned from your message. If I misread it, I apologize. I don't know if there was anyone in any of the buildings they torched. I do know this though about the law. If there is an reasonable expectation of someone being on property at the time of an arson, it is considered attempted murder, whether they actually are or not.Its basically the same difference between burglary and home invasion. A burglary generally takes place during the day, when there is a reasonable expectation that the criminal is trying to avoid the residents -- this establishes that they are not trying to harm the occupants, just trying to steal their belongings.But a home invasion, which in many states is a 15 year minimum, is generally at night, because there is a reasonable expectation that the occupants will be home. This establishes the insinuation of the thief that is ready to maim or kill whoever gets in their way.

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“First dentistry was painless, then bicycles were chainless, and carriages were horseless, and many laws enforceless. Next cookery was fireless, telegraphy was wireless, cigars were nicotineless, and coffee caffeineless. Soon oranges were seedless, the putting green was weedless, the college boy was hatless, the proper diet -- fatless. New motor roads are dustless, the latest steel is rustless, our tennis courts are sodless, our new religion -- Godless” -Arthur Guiterman

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scuttled two ships ... damage(d) the Icelandic whaling station

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arson attack on research facilities at Michigan State University

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release of mink from a nearby MSU mink research farm, wrecking equipment and opening animals' cages

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dismantling a lion trap and spreading mountain lion urine

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felony conspiracy to interfere with or injure a government official, misdemeanor interference with or injury to a forest officer, and misdemeanor depredation (theft or destruction or the attempt to do so) of government property

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Not quite, Gaia."11 people were charged with acts of domestic terrorism on behalf of the extremist Earth Liberation Front (ELF) and Animal Liberation Front (ALF) over a five-year period.

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The 65-count indictment alleges the defendants committed acts of domestic terrorism between 1996 and 2001 in Oregon, Wyoming, Washington, California, and Colorado. Specifically, the indictment includes charges related to arson, conspiracy, use of destructive devices, and destruction of an energy facility.

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The defendants are implicated in 17 attacks, including the $12 million arson of the Vail Ski Resort in Vail, Colorado, in 1998 and the sabotage of a high-tension power line near Bend, Oregon, in 1999... In 2004, the FBI estimated ELF, ALF and related extremist groups had committed more than 1,100 criminal acts since 1976 with damage estimates over $100 million. -Federal Bureau of InvestigationsThree piddly bombs? Suppose I left three piddly bombs in your driveway, would you be this ambivalent? Suppose I set fire to your house or your business, would you be this ambivalent? These aren't acts of vandalism, these are serious felonies.Oh, but I forgot, they didn't go off... So maybe they should get away with attempted murder, eh? Suppose somebody left three piddly devices of unexploded ordinance at an abortion clinic... You don't think there would be hell to pay?Can I assume that you support them by the way you try to minimize what they've done?

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“First dentistry was painless, then bicycles were chainless, and carriages were horseless, and many laws enforceless. Next cookery was fireless, telegraphy was wireless, cigars were nicotineless, and coffee caffeineless. Soon oranges were seedless, the putting green was weedless, the college boy was hatless, the proper diet -- fatless. New motor roads are dustless, the latest steel is rustless, our tennis courts are sodless, our new religion -- Godless” -Arthur Guiterman

No they aren't. You conveniently omitted a few charges, then you minimized the other one's. "Oh, they're just bombs". Its all about motive. What would you know about it? Do you have a criminal justice degree? I think the FBI is a tad more qualified than you to make that determination. Maybe they have and you are unaware of it.

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“First dentistry was painless, then bicycles were chainless, and carriages were horseless, and many laws enforceless. Next cookery was fireless, telegraphy was wireless, cigars were nicotineless, and coffee caffeineless. Soon oranges were seedless, the putting green was weedless, the college boy was hatless, the proper diet -- fatless. New motor roads are dustless, the latest steel is rustless, our tennis courts are sodless, our new religion -- Godless” -Arthur Guiterman