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Author Topic:   Anyone else notice this pattern?
obvious Child
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Message 7 of 318 (444365)
12-29-2007 2:08 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Zawi
12-28-2007 9:23 PM


Of course. It is a fallacious argument in that better or clearer writing styles equate to correct arguments. I used to go to another forum where many of the creationists had excellent writing skills, producing coherent sentences, but producing half-baked arguments that revolved around fallacies and in one's case, numerous hoaxes. Their writing styles were free of errors and had excellent grammar, yet their arguments were completely full of hash.
One of the best creationists I've seen used good writing to snooker ignorant people into believing him. Doesn't make him right though.

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Message 8 of 318 (444366)
12-29-2007 2:11 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Buzsaw
12-28-2007 11:22 PM


Re: Postulating Poster Patterns
Total Hash Buz.
The anonymity of the internet allows anyone to go anywhere on forums and post whatever they wish. Merely because the culture doesn't fit your views does not restrict you from saying what you wish to say however you want to say it. There is nothing stopping you from picking the best style you have. It isn't as if you're going to get attacked physically for what you say. RAZD posted a link to a creationists forum. It physically hurt to read what they were writing and they had the dominant culture and belief there.

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Message 38 of 318 (444834)
12-31-2007 3:23 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by nator
12-29-2007 1:33 PM


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I don't think this is true at all.
Depends on your audience. The Glish Glop doesn't work on educated people who understand science, but it does work on pliable Christians who may consider Genesis to be true. In the same way, appearing intelligent in writing skills is the same way.

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Message 39 of 318 (444836)
12-31-2007 3:27 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by Taz
12-30-2007 8:09 PM


Re: Postulating Poster Patterns
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Scientists are specialists. They can speak with authority on the subjects that are within their field of expertise. As far as I know, noone that I have ever met or heard have ever deified scientists. The only difference between a scientist and a regular person is the scientist is a specialist in some field of science.
Very much true. And this goes for a wide variety of aspects. I made the mistake here in assuming that people who were specialized in science also made a effort to make their other views and other aspects of knowledge similar to their levels of specialization. I will not make it again.

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Message 54 of 318 (447307)
01-08-2008 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by purpledawn
12-31-2007 6:42 AM


Re: Know Your Audience
Exactly. It's how you write, not in the aspect of appearing intelligent but your tone. Many science people have met defeat in debate because they came off hostile to an audience that believed literal genesis was true. In the same way that evangelicals are more or less reviled by non-evangelicals even though they believe in much of the same doctrine and beliefs as non-evangelicals who are seen in a much better light by most people.

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Message 58 of 318 (447564)
01-09-2008 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Taz
01-09-2008 7:24 PM


Re: Know Your Audience
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Anyway, sometimes I think it's the intention of creationists to annoy people like myself and make us push ourselves over the edge, in turn giving them the upper hand.
Well, angry people make mistakes.
'Winning' isn't about proving that your point is true, it is about whether or not your audience buys that it is true.

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