Global Futurism. A discussion of impending issues

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/SE-11.pdfCapiche?

nccs is not "the president"and it only suggests that the military could not involve nukes without the presidents involvement, not that the president can launch nukes at will.

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The NCCS quote I provided states:The President has command and control of the NCCS.You are dense.

not at all. I'm implying that tho he has control of it, there are protocols to action , requirements that must be met before a president would have full cooperation.that the president cannot "exclusively" launch nuclear missiles.I'm not dense, your just stubborn

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Wrong again.The decision to launch is the President's ALONE.There are guidelines in place for the President to consider. But there are no RULES that he has to follow. There are no "requirements to be met".Military commanders have no authority to defy the President's order.That's the whole point.

the sophisticated system in place was set up to limit launch ability, not give exclusive power to the president.congress wouldn't allow it. the American people wouldn't allow it, the other countries would be horrified from it, and the political implications of the suggestion would be a breakdown of all democratic law.there is no way a president, will have that power as long as congress, and the house of representatives, the media, and the people of the united states have any say about it.your wrong.presidents can be impeached, and defied, just like a military commander can be defied if one goes section 8Edited by tesla, : No reason given.

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Tesla, will you take the time to research your positions instead of pulling s*** straight out of your ass? GCCS - Global Command and Control System - United States Nuclear ForcesThe NCCS is the STAFF under the Secretary of Defense. The NCCS maintains and runs the GCCS. They have no role in the decision to launch. Page not found - Storming Media US - Covering the Globe & Back To repeat: ONLY. O-N-L-Y.

o-n-l-y a nuclear launch activation can be made with presidential inclusion. not only the president can unlock it and by self desire initiate the launch.interesting..you also just added another group: ercdid you read my last post? what your suggesting is communism.does it matter how much proof i put before you that your suggestion is impossible in this democracy?I'm starting to feel like I'm trying to convince the chicken the sky is not falling....

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keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

The ERC is under the Secretary of Defense.Subordinate to. Reports to. Under the command of.The Secretary of Defense is under the President. http://findarticles.com/...cles/mi_m1571/is_7_17/ai_72328612I posted this link in Message 125.You misread it: What part of "only the president can authorize a nuclear-missile launch" and "monopoly" don't you understand?Tesla, for a guy who thinks he has an insight into physics that the thousands of brilliant theoretical and experimental physicists working today have somehow missed, you show a remarkable lack of reading comprehension.

i believe that the "proof" your showing me is either: no longer in compliance, or outright propaganda.the purpose of a democracy is to limit power of a single entity.suggesting that a power as dangerous as nuclear launches would be accepted by the government, or by the world in a power as powerful as the united states,to one individual, is absurd.no matter how many documents you show me to try to prove that what your saying is correct: it would be impossible to implement it politically.the potential of a president to loose his mind is realistic, therefore the government was established so that no one entity in the government would have exclusive power.Edited by tesla, : No reason given.

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keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

The President is the one who has to make the decision to launch nuclear weapons. Your concern is if the President should become unstable or decide to launch weapons while sleep walking, correct?Since the launch information is kept in a briefcase that is manned by a military aide, my guess is that there are protocols in place for such a possibility. The military aide would be familiar with possible scenarios. For obvious reasons those protocols would not be available for everyone to see. I can't imagine the Government answering you, other than saying that there are safeguards in place.

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I have a very low BP, a very low heart rate and a low body temp. In fact, by the time I reach 98.6, I have a raging fever.

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You'll have to excuse me if I don't believe that for a second.

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Oh dear. I see. You're on of those.

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So you're saying that his WMD argument was just a cover for his religious reason?The whole issue of Bush as a religious whackjob doesn't make sense. He only pulls out religion when a issue arises that he can't browbeat people into doing. Controversial issues that he can't force people to vote for is when he pulls out the card. And when he wins, the card disappears from that issue until he needs it again. Bush hyped up gay marriage in the 2004 election promising to ban it but once he won, he never talked about it again it the context of marriage. Plus his comments during his governorship hardly suggest what you do. IMO, if someone only uses religion to get votes or what he wants, he's not a actual believer, but instead uses religion as a tool.Just because we have a religious president doesn't mean the world will end.

That makes absolutely no sense. From a strategic MAD point of view, that is suicide. A single decapitating attack would instantly remove the US's ability to respond to a nuclear attack. Given how the US has historically spread authorization and defense hubs across the US, it makes no sense for a single man who can be eliminated to have sole authority.Furthermore, it doesn't mean that only the president can launch.Sagan and Waltz describe several instances where US missile commanders jury rigged missile to launch on command, and not from the president.And that's only half the equation. As stated before, the Russians almost killed everyone when a glitch reported a full scale attack by America. Russia doesn't have the same systems as the US does, allowing regional commanders, even as low as a half bird colonel to end the world.

The death of a President is the death of a President, whether by heart attack or nuclear attack.Order of Succession:* The Vice President
* Speaker of the House
* President pro tempore of the Senate
* Secretary of State
* Secretary of the Treasury
* Secretary of Defense
* Attorney General
* Secretary of the Interior
* Secretary of Agriculture
* Secretary of Commerce
* Secretary of Labor
* Secretary of Health and Human Services
* Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
* Secretary of Transportation
* Secretary of Energy
* Secretary of Education
* Secretary of Veterans Affairs
* Secretary of Homeland Security If I jury-rig a landline telephone to deliver a deadly shock to anyone who picks up the reciever, does that mean telephones are deadly? I know.You didn't read the thread, did you?

I think it's important to include the sentence that immediately precedes the one you quoted from your first cite, PD: Tho I doubt Tesla will be impressed.He rejects out of hand any evidence we might offer, because "it just can't be that way".