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Author Topic:   can science accept assertive law?
tesla
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Message 1 of 6 (444762)
12-30-2007 7:20 PM


not sure how to debate existence, which the word is like all words, they describe something.
existing isn't an idea..its an asserted fact that science has not produced an answer to.
i cant debate it in science that's based on something tentative.
I'm deeply concerned that science is given too much freedom with tentative theories in regard to what i call : the LAW of existence.
is this then debatable? or forever to be overlooked by science?
(its viable in the ID debate since existence is what religion was spawned from by the question that only man can ask: where did we come from, and how can we exist? which ironically was also the basis of scientific enquiry) -IMO

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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Message 2 of 6 (444766)
12-30-2007 7:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by tesla
12-30-2007 7:20 PM


Moving to PNT
The topic is not appropriate for the Coffee House.

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    Message 3 of 6 (444768)
    12-30-2007 7:29 PM


    Thread moved here from the Coffee House forum.

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    Message 4 of 6 (444772)
    12-30-2007 7:49 PM
    Reply to: Message 1 by tesla
    12-30-2007 7:20 PM


    Where to discuss this?
    I think you are trying to debate the question that is often stated as "Why is there something, rather than nothing?"
    I'm not sure what to do with this topic. It does not fit well in any of our forums. Your previous attempt to discuss this failed, because you wanted it to be a Great Debate, but it takes the agreement of two people before we can have a GD.
    Most scientists will tell you that this is not a scientific question. If your interest is in discussing why scientists do not consider this to be a scientific question, I guess we could move the topic to Is It Science?. If you are wanting to discuss the question itself, then it doesn't really fit anywhere, but we could possibly squeeze it into one of the religious forums. If you want to discuss it from the perspective of the biblical creation accounts, then Bible Study might be best. Otherwise, I suppose we could try Theological Creationism and ID, though it doesn't fit well with the announced scope of that forum.
    Where would you like to see it go?
    (other admins also invited to add their two cents)

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    tesla
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    Message 5 of 6 (444774)
    12-30-2007 7:54 PM
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    12-30-2007 7:49 PM


    Re: Where to discuss this?
    personally, is it science seems best fitted for me.
    i want to know if an asserted fact of logic has any place in science at all.

    keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
    ~parmenides

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    Message 6 of 6 (444776)
    12-30-2007 8:04 PM


    Thread copied to the can science accept assertive law? thread in the Is It Science? forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.

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