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Aquilegia753
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Message 76 of 100 (445058)
01-01-2008 1:37 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by jar
12-28-2007 10:58 PM


Re: take it to a flood thread.
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"So far all you have presented are PRATTs (Points Refuted a Thousand Times)."
Is this a PRATT?
There are no two- three- or four-, five-, six-, etc.-celled organisms. It seems that there should be these in abundance, as transitional forms between single-celled and multi-celled organisms (multi-celled being things like plankton, algae, fungi, etc.)

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Message 77 of 100 (445061)
01-01-2008 1:42 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by obvious Child
12-31-2007 4:44 AM


Re: European Pottery between 6500 and 6000 years ago.

"How do you think the grand canyon was formed?"

Water erosion from the giant rushing of water piled up over Salt Lake City after the flood. But, if it was really eroded over 'millions of years', then why is it the only one? Was there only one river millions of years ago? It seems they'd have dug a canyon just as impressive, if not more impressive, than the Grand Canyon. Where are all these other river's canyons?

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Message 78 of 100 (445064)
01-01-2008 1:49 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by Aquilegia753
01-01-2008 1:37 AM


Re: take it to a flood thread.
There are no two- three- or four-, five-, six-, etc.-celled organisms.
Two celled.
Desmidoideae is a class of conjugating green algae, phylum Gamophyta. Most desmids form pairs of cells whose cytoplasms are joined at an isthmus (Margulis and Schwartz 1982, 100). The bacterium Neisseria also tends to form two-celled arrangements. As noted above, this may not be relevant to the evolution of multicellularity.
CB922: Intermediate two-celled life
Two to thirty-two celled.
The photosynthetic flagellate Gonium is a colonial intermediate between the free-living Chlamydomonas and the hollow ball-like colonies of Volvox, in that Gonium is a simple cluster of 2 to 32 Chlamydomonas-like cells embedded in a wad of gelatinous polysaccharides.
Bonner, John Tyler, 2000. First Signals: The evolution of Multicellular Development, Princeton University Press.
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Aquilegia753
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Message 79 of 100 (445065)
01-01-2008 1:52 AM
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01-01-2008 1:49 AM


Re: take it to a flood thread.
Okay, but still, how do you get from the two-celled thing to the thirty-two celled one without anything in between, like a four, eight, or sixteen. It is implied by the lack of these that nothing moved between single cell to the thirty-two cells to more complex organisms.

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Aquilegia753
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Message 80 of 100 (445075)
01-01-2008 2:52 AM
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01-01-2008 1:49 AM


Re: take it to a flood thread.

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jar
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Message 81 of 100 (445109)
01-01-2008 9:01 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by Aquilegia753
01-01-2008 1:52 AM


Re: take it to a flood thread.
Okay, but still, how do you get from the two-celled thing to the thirty-two celled one without anything in between, like a four, eight, or sixteen.
I'm sorry but what the hell does any of your nonsense have to do with the topic?
Is there any chance you might someday actually address the topic which is, in case you missed it, "The world and evironment 5767 years ago."
The flood is irrelevant.
Multicelled critters are irrelevant.
The topic is "The world and evironment 5767 years ago."

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obvious Child
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Message 82 of 100 (445258)
01-01-2008 4:35 PM
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01-01-2008 1:42 AM


Re: European Pottery between 6500 and 6000 years ago.
CH581: Carving the Grand Canyon
quote:
But, if it was really eroded over 'millions of years', then why is it the only one?
What do you mean the only 'one.' There are other canyons in the US. Plus rivers change over time, resulting in different areas being eroded. The Mississippi has changed course many, many times. There are now Civil war boats that cruised the river high on dry because of the river's course change.

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Message 83 of 100 (445260)
01-01-2008 4:37 PM
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01-01-2008 1:34 AM


Re: European Pottery between 6500 and 6000 years ago.
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And, maybe yes, the Chinese version may have been brought by Americans, but who told the original Native Americans living in the North West before the white men came?
Told them what? The vast majority of flood stories differ in why, who, where and what happened. The only thing all of them share is water.
Your argument of a near universal flood story is absolute bullshit.

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Message 84 of 100 (445264)
01-01-2008 4:48 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Aquilegia753
01-01-2008 1:42 AM


From pottery to canyons....?
Was there only one river millions of years ago? It seems they'd have dug a canyon just as impressive, if not more impressive, than the Grand Canyon.
God must have been REALLY annoyed with the Martians then. He flooded Mars with a much bigger flood - it carved the Valles Marineris.
quote:
A "Grand Canyon of Mars" slices across the Red Planet near its equator. This canyon -- Valles Marineris, or the Mariner Valley -- is 10 times longer and deeper than Arizona's Grand Canyon, and 20 times wider. As the picture shows, you could drop the whole Los Angeles basin into a small part of Valles Marineris and leave plenty of room to spare. In length, the canyon extends far enough that it could reach across the United States from East Coast to West Coast, while its rim stands more than 25,000 feet high, nearly as tall as Earth's Mount Everest.
A massive flood in the last 6000 years or so on Mars? How exciting
Anyway - I can't help but feel the thread is in danger of slipping of topic slightly. It might be a good idea to review the OP to check if we haven't drifted at all.
Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.

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jar
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Message 85 of 100 (445265)
01-01-2008 4:54 PM
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01-01-2008 4:48 PM


Re: From pottery to canyons....?
Topic please. Don't let folk pull this off into LaLa Land.

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Aquilegia753
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Message 86 of 100 (445343)
01-01-2008 8:31 PM
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01-01-2008 4:54 PM


Re: From pottery to canyons....?
One more before I go back to topic...
I was simply saying that not everything I've stated is PRATTs.
Okay, so, jar, what do you think the world was like 5767 years ago?

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Message 87 of 100 (445346)
01-01-2008 8:38 PM
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01-01-2008 8:31 PM


Re: From pottery to canyons....?
Pretty much like today. Every continent but Antarctica had been settled for tens of thousands of years. We had domesticated the horse and bridles had been invented. Technology was advancing rapidly and trade was very widespread. For more, read the thread.

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Aquilegia753
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Message 88 of 100 (445354)
01-01-2008 9:00 PM
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01-01-2008 8:38 PM


Re: From pottery to canyons....?
Okay, that's very simple. A nice, easy thread. I believe that the population of humans was spreading under lots of environmental stress. They were probably spreading out fast, and making many inventions. Their efficiency at farming and herding was probably going up fast with the domestication of plants and animals.

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jar
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Message 89 of 100 (445355)
01-01-2008 9:02 PM
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01-01-2008 9:00 PM


Re: From pottery to canyons....?
Have you read the thread yet? It covers many of the then current civilizations.

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Aquilegia753
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Message 90 of 100 (445358)
01-01-2008 9:57 PM
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01-01-2008 9:02 PM


Re: From pottery to canyons....?
I believe that men hadn't spread far enough to have civilizations, let alone different ones.

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